Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House Do'Urden (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of Forgotten Realms characters. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

House Do'Urden
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Fancruft. Can reasonably be replaced by a one-sentence summary in Drizzt Do'Urden. Qwertyus (talk) 00:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - seriously fancruft. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Information is pretty trivial and gives undue weight to a subsection of a game.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 01:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That isn't what WP:UNDUE is about. If the Forgotten Realms article had a section about it that would be undue weight. Peter&#160;James (talk) 09:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename to List of Do'Urden characters or a similar name. It's essentially a list of fictional characters that exist in a notable fictional franchise. Not each one must be notable for the list to be kept, as long as the class as a whole is. Jclemens (talk) 02:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * notability is not inherited by being mentioned in a notable book. converting to a list does not change that. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:10, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per Jclemens, or merge into List of Forgotten Realms characters. BOZ (talk) 04:42, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: No suitable sources found, per WP:GNG. Essentially this is fictional setting trivia. Praemonitus (talk) 14:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to list of Forgotten Realms characters. I was able to find one source that mentions some aspects of the house in passing, but they're primarily details about Drizzt. —Torchiest talkedits 14:26, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, an indiscriminate collection of fictional trivia that doesn't meet WP:GNG: no significant coverage from secondary sources. "List of..." articles aren't trump cards that can magically do away with IINFO/notability requirements, they are fully subjected to notability criteria and aren't a guaranty for survival (a look at the fictional elements AfD archives will prove it). Merely renaming this as "List of..." won't lift any of the concerns that brought this AfD, and merging the content to the already problematic List of Forgotten Realms characters would merely pile up more "excessive intricate details" than it needs. Sometimes content just needs to go.Folken de Fanel (talk) 19:59, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete - no third party sources writing in a significant manner about the subject. Or transwiki, isnt there someplace that relishes this trivia?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * strong delete fancruft. Im sure there is a forgotten realms wiki somewhere. We shouldn't be mirroring it. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Torchiest as a possible search term; that list entry currently points to this article so the merge of useful information (list of family members) is appropriate.Vulcan&#39;s Forge (talk) 02:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Torchiest; information worth keeping as part of the character list, but not as an independent article. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
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