Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/How to Date A Black Girl, White Girl or Hallfie.


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The result was   keep. &mdash; Joseph Fox 01:14, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

How to Date A Black Girl, White Girl or Hallfie.

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PROD declined by creator without  addressing  the issue(s). Concern=No external sources, nor any indication of the subject's notability. Apart from a few routine reviews, it does not  appear to meet  WP:NBOOK. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. The subject is not a book; it's a short story. Granted, the author, Junot Diaz, later won a Pulitzer Prize for a novel. But this article title isn't even suitable as a redirect, because it's missing two words and misspells another word: it should be "How to Date a Brown Girl (Black Girl, White Girl, or Halfie)". See . --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. I tried to flesh out the article some more but it still needs a lot of work. As I was looking for sources I did note that there are more than a few schools and colleges that appear to use this short story, which is one of the requirement of WP:NBOOK. I'm not sure if there's enough of them, but about 1/4th to 1/3rd of the links in a google search seemed to take me to various lesson plans and such. I don't know if this is enough to warrant keeping it, hence the weak keep. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * References alone (especially to  routine book  reviews) do  not  assert notability. Please see WP:NBOOK. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:43, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that, but I was more referring to the story's usage in classrooms as a potential reason to keep it. It (along with the anthology it's published in) seems to be used in quite a few classrooms. I just don't know if enough classrooms use it to where it can be considered notability under WP:NBOOK since I'm limited to the classes that show up under google search. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79


 * Merge and redirect to Junot Diaz. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 15:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 15:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 15:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Yes, it is a short story, however, some of the sources listed at G-books (Literary magazine review: Vol. 15, Creating Character Emotions (p. 140-141), Current Trends in Narratology (p. 111), Library journal: Vol. 126, Sí Magazine (1-5, 1995, p. 88)) suggest that there's a possibility to write an interesting article about this literary work. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've moved the article to the correct title: How to Date a Brown Girl (Black Girl, White Girl, or Halfie). --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:52, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Btw, the G-books search result for "How to date a browngirl, blackgirl, whitegirl, or halfie" (I assume it is the same story) gives a lot of good sources. In my opinion it is a notable short story. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep It is "very close" to passing WP:GNG, most How to novels are useful, however this one is not so much. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 19:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep the criteria of classroom use is determinative in this case; part of the reason for this standard is that the article will be used by students. Though "useful" by itself is not a criterion, it adds to the reason for keeping an article.   DGG ( talk ) 22:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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