Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howard Atherton


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  Talk   13:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Howard Atherton

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Article is a recreation of one previously deleted via PROD. Subject appears to fail WP:BASIC and WP:CREATIVE. Source coverage is trivial at best. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:27, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, subject is notable and has been a cinematographer on a number of very successful films, Fatal Attraction, Indecent Proposal, Black Rain, Bad Boys. Neptune&#39;s Trident (talk)
 * Keep - successful film cinematographer and Emmy nominee. —Мандичка YO 😜 08:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Conceding the Emmy nom moves the needle, there is very little coverage in RS sources that would indicate his importance. And an award nomination does not establish notability. If he had won, that would have rung the N bell. As for the films he was involved with, notability is not inherited. We need extensive secondary source coverage ABOUT HIM. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited except per WP:CREATIVE, which states subject's works must have won significant critical attention. Subject, as cinematographer for Oscar- and Emmy-nominated films, meets this criteria. —Мандичка YO 😜 07:34, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak keep or secondly redirect to Gulliver's Travels (not currently mentioned though) as the Emmy nom is one of the best shots at notability; my searches didn't find much here, here and here. This is a somewhat similar case to Charonne Mose which I nominated due to notability issues and an Emmy being the only solid thing holding the article and I still believe it's vulnerable to BLP issues (although Howard's article is a little better while Charonne apparently retired from the biz industry). SwisterTwister   talk  06:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC)


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