Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howard Menger


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The result was keep.  The Nordic Goddess Kristen  Worship her 00:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Howard Menger

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I do not think that this particular person is notable enough for an entire encyclopedia article. He seems to fail WP:BIO due to WP:ONEEVENT associations. Some UFO believers find him interesting seems to be the only claim to notability this chap has. Merge any useful content to contactee. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep He gets hits from abovetopsecret and torrentreactor (note to self - filter Google while at work), and a trivial mention at How Stuff Works]. His books are apparently out of print, and not widely held in modern libraries. He was active decades ago, so we should not expect too much of a web presence outside of non-RS fringe pages. On the other hand, Aliens in America describes him as among the "most prominent contactees". - Eldereft (cont.) 18:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect per WP:BIO1E to Contactee. Springnuts (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep author, and mentioned in a slew of books (over 100). Even made NYT   Meets notability requirements for sure. Collect (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and add sources, that NYT one in particular. Artw (talk) 22:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If you remove Menger, you might as well get rid of Reinhold O. Schmidt, Dana Howard and Orfeo_Angelucci who also played small parts in the contactee movement. From a Ufological perspective, they were notable speakers in events such as Giant Rock conventions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsdonovan (talk • contribs) 20:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. The 99 Google Books hits include books published by Cornell University Press (ISBN 9780801484681), Smithsonian Institution (ISBN 9781560983439), Oxford University Press (ISBN 9780199107827), Indiana University Press (ISBN 9780253190062), Duke University Press (ISBN 9780822324409), and University of California Press (ISBN 9780520239050). Phil Bridger (talk) 23:12, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability is established by the reliable sources found by Phil Bridger. --J.Mundo (talk) 04:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


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