Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howling Mad Murdock


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of The A-Team characters. Consensus the article shouldn't be retained (across Delete & Redirect options), but taking this one as an ATD. Daniel (talk) 22:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Howling Mad Murdock

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This is fiction trivia. The article is written so much from an in-universe persepctive that it lists the numerous medals and decorations this fictitious character has. Lack of notability/cultural impact outside of the series indicates that the character should be summarized in The A-Team, but not in a standalone article. Geschichte (talk) 11:41, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment At the very least, this is a valid redirect to List of The A-Team characters, so there is no valid reason for deletion per WP:ATD-R. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 12:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 12:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Meh, we have no room for actual war heroes but we make room for fake ones. Herein lies the problem with an encyclopedia that is likely edited by who knows. Lightburst (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Room is not actually limited here, so if you think something else needs adding deleting another article actually has no bearing on it. Artw (talk) 03:44, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:37, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep topic is notable due to RS coverage. No objections to editing it to condense and improve. Personally not seeing the need to describe fictional awards of real ribbons and medals. Jclemens (talk) 18:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Jclemens Could you link those RS? I don't see any mentioned here and the references in the article look bad (two out of four are primary, there is a passing mention in a newspaper and a presumablu some other in a documentary-ish TV show). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:28, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the two already in the article. Jclemens (talk) 17:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep and tidy per above. Artw (talk) 03:44, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * No objection to the redirect if that ends up as the outcome - it DOES need a major pruning, and have a suspicion that a if no new material is added it will look a lot like what is already in List of The A-Team characters once that is completed. Artw (talk) 16:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. No SIGCOV in RS has been shown to exist that establishes notability. Please ping me if better sources are found for a review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:30, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Character from the A team - definitely not independently notable, and the character has been in no other show. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:41, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The A-Team characters - There is not actually enough coverage in reliable sources to justify a separate article (the one actually valid source currently in the article is literally only being used to confirm that he was one of the four protagonists of the show), but as a valid target exists, redirecting would be preferable over straight deletion. Rorshacma (talk) 03:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Article fails WP:NPLOT and WP:WAF, there being no significant out-universe coverage. Avilich (talk) 17:47, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.