Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hsiao-Lan Wang


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  09:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Hsiao-Lan Wang

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While lots of awards are listed, the significance of the awards are not themselves shown, and thus not her notability. As it stands, delete. --Nlu (talk) 09:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete -- could be, or maybe not; most of the claims are unsourced, and notability is not demonstrated in a reliable secondary source. Academic organizations that provide credential buffing for aspiring academics are a dime a dozen; I can't tell if any of this is notable stuff, because no sources tell us. N2e (talk) 03:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I found verification on the two or three awards I looked for right away, plus the listings indicates she's active in competitions and that her music is played internationally. A Google search turns up her name quite often for ensemble and orchestra performances. She looks to be up and coming--books as sources are always several years behind the trends.Pkeets (talk) 21:53, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That much is understood, but is it your opinion that these are legitimate awards? (When I say legitimate I don't mean in opposition to the awards to being "illegitimate"; I mean that these are actually awards of substantial prestige.)  --Nlu (talk) 22:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Award competitions are set up to produce winners, regardless of the field. Even of some of these are "buff" awards, the competition awards should be taken seriously.Pkeets (talk) 23:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability in this case would be proven by a couple of reviews of her music in independent, mainstream publications such as newspapers or magazines. If anyone can find such reviews I will change my view. -- Klein zach  22:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Is that a requirement for notability? I don't see anything just for her, but here's a festival review from the LA Times.
 * Agree with Kleinzach. Delete. Eusebeus (talk) 14:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This subject is a close call. The article in the International Alliance for Women in Music does provide some compelling evidence for notability. However, this is just one source and the other references are not substantial. A google news archive search and a google books search has yielded nothing further of note. The Los Angeles Times article only mentions her in passing. With the lack of sources available where Hsiao-Lan Wang or her work is the primary subject I don't think notability can be adequately established.4meter4 (talk) 16:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is for the "up and arrived" rather than the "up and coming". She just got her PhD last year and isn't a full professor yet. She wouldn't have to be reviewed or written about in the mainstream press, but there ought to be a least two in-depth articles about her or her work in the specialised journals, and I can't find any. Also without any references, it's hard to tell about these awards. For example, some ASCAP rewards are very prestigious (Deems Taylor Award), but others are really little more than grants to promising young composition students. Even so, I !voted delete in with heavy heart considering the utter schlock that manages to pass AfDs here. Voceditenore (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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