Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hubert Joseph Kupper


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The result was   delete. ( X! ·  talk )  · @082  · 00:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hubert Joseph Kupper

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Article tagged as hoax on 21 January. The article makes some noble claims about the subject which are not backed up by reliable sources. I cannot find any RS in a quick search, and a couple of editors have poked holes in his story on the article talk page. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 04:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Hoax or not, I see no assertion of notability at all. A housebuilder who had won lots of medals (or not). Johnbod (talk) 11:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I know it might be a bit unconventional, but I'd like to put this AFD on hold for a little bit. I've opened a line of communication with the United States Marine Corps History Division regarding the suspected hoax (I would be the one who tagged it, BTW, based on the concerns of Looper5920). I'd like a couple of weeks to let them do some research and see if they can find anything on this individual, because a legitimate Navy Cross recipient is almost surely notable enough for an article. If that's not reasonable, them my vote will default to delete.  bahamut0013  words deeds 12:44, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt the Navy Cross is enough "Since its creation (1917), it has been awarded more than 6,300 times". We have over 600 in Category:Recipients of the Navy Cross, most, but not all, of whom seem to have other claims to notability. Johnbod (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, a Navy Cross alone (or in combination with the other medals) isn't sufficient for notability; this isn't the Medal of Honor. WP:BIO guarantees notability to those who have received major notable awards, but anyone in who is wounded or killed is awarded the Purple Heart — quite a notable award — and we don't automatically consider them notable, so we mustn't read that statement as making the Navy Cross a guarantee of notability.  Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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