Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Huddersfield Town F.C. - Supporter culture


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The result was delete. Most of the pertinent information is already at Huddersfield_Town_F.C., so no need for a merge. Neil  ☎  17:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Huddersfield Town F.C. - Supporter culture

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There is already an Athletic Supporter culture section in the main article, this page should be deleted. Fee Fi Foe Fum 00:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't use the word "cruft" very often, but this--right down to the song lyrics(!!!)--is cruft. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  01:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per above (this article is the definition of cruft!). - Rjd0060 05:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 07:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Andrew Lenahan. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  08:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into current section Supporter culture within the main article. alone i feel this article lacks WP:RS, but some of this information (like the history of the team song) may belong within Huddersfield_Town_F.C.. I'll merge it if no rep from WikiProject Football appears.  Matthew  Yeager  12:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into current section Supporter culture as above. Da-rb 22:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I wouldn't even merge half of this stuff. Is it really encyclopedic to list a few famous fans and a couple of songs fans sing on the terraces? Maybe mention on the likes of Patrick Stewart's entry he's a Huddersfield fan but that's as far as I'd go. Peanut4 22:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - celebrity name-dropping and blatant original research (so much so that I decline to support calls for Merge). Ref (chew) (do) 02:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Decoratrix 03:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and Merge -those outside the UK should bear in mind that there are whole books written on the rich supporter culture of english soccer clubs - needs to be tidied though. The original article is only 64kb so no problemo...cheers,  Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - who is outside the UK? Not me, and I still say delete, for the reasons I have stated. Let the "rich supporter culture" stay in the whole books, and leave Wikipedia to be an encyclopedia, not a trivia magazine. And what's the size of the article got to do with it? We're not talking server bandwidth here. Ref (chew) (do) 19:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Reply looks to me as if this "rich culture" consists of naming six people who like the team and reproducing the lyrics to two songs sung at games. This just isn't a subject for an encyclopedia article. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  20:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - actually this is better sourced than most such articles. If it is causing angst I have no problem with a merge back though the present structure is neater. However, I would argue that it is encyclopaedic - supporters are as much a component part of any professional sporting club as, for example, the players. BlueValour 15:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - I completely agree with what BlueValour says. It shows the supporter culture of a club who might not be as well known unlike Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or Manchester United. JRRobinson 19:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - Six references about name-dropped celebrities and one about a song? How is that "better sourced" to any useful degree? Famous supporters belong in main club articles (see Sheffield United F.C. for instance). I repeat my opinion that it is basically blatant original research and does not warrant a separate article. Added to which, individual or collective (non-celebrity) supporters are non-notable when compared to individual players, managers, etc., and it is wrong to encourage this kind of self-importance. In the end, the players are the entertainment, not those who come to watch them. Ref (chew) (do) 20:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Passionate arguments don't change the facts that the topic is covered in the main article and that there are no sources demonstrating enough notability for a stand-alone page. Fee Fi Foe Fum 00:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and please remove that notable supporters list, whose low notability was already discussed earlier. --Angelo 21:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.