Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hudson Greene


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While there seems to be some disagreement about whether the current sourcing of the article is adequate (per SportingFlyer), it seems like the sourcing presented by Andrew Davidson has convinced most editors. I note Rusf10's comment but it doesn't seem to have caught on. Thus this is a keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hudson Greene

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Apartment Building, does not meet WP:NBUILD. The fact that a construction worker died is also WP:NOTNEWS Rusf10 (talk) 15:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 15:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 15:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep There's already enough sources for a start and there's more to find, as with all these huge buildings. Here's an interesting account of what's happening in the area, which includes the building in question.  And here's another source, showing it to be in the Jersey City top 10.  And here's coverage in The Architect's Newspaper. Andrew D. (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * None of these are significant coverage. I can't believe you even bothered to include a top ten list.--Rusf10 (talk) 21:38, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * These are all significant coverage per WP:SIGCOV. My !vote stands. Andrew D. (talk) 22:54, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included by Andrew D. in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as per above.Djflem (talk) 10:09, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep.  Enough sources for notability -- And in general buildings of this size will have sources if looked for carefully. Rather, the problem with many articles like this is much more likely to be  promotionalism , but this article seems to be OK in that respect. DGG ( talk ) 06:14, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep article passes the general notability guidelines.  D r e a m Focus  21:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * CommentNot a single one of the above "Keep" votes have addressed the concerns I raised about WP:NOTNEWS. All significant reliable source coverage is related to the construction worker that died.--Rusf10 (talk) 21:38, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly notable.  No compliance (or cursory) compliance with WP:Before. Article and sourcing is not now what it was when this nomination was proposed. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep article passes WP:GNG with non-trivial coverage. Lubbad85  (☎)(Edits) 15:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Its snowing in June in New Jersey. What a way to celebrate Summer solstice.  Who'd-a-thought!  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:22, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I know this is going against consensus, but I ended up here after deleting a block quote that had nothing to do with the buildings, and it led me to review all of the sources in the article. The first two sources are links to a building database. The next two are primary sources which link to the websites of each building. "Near-empty tower still holds hope" is about One Madison Park in New York and doesn't mention the complex at all. We then have three articles that are actually about the buildings, but aren't significant coverage. "High rise fire as at..." is four grafs long and doesn't talk about the buildings substantively. I cannot open the ABCLocal source. "Construction worker dies..." is also four-five grafs long and isn't about the building, but rather that someone died working there. "Skyline Wars..." mentions the buildings, along with a number of other buildings, over a couple grafs. I don't think it's significant coverage. A before search brings up mentions, but nothing in independent secondary coverage (such as there's a bitcoin machine in the building from a crypto blog.) If anyone finds any other independent secondary sources, please ping me, but this definitively fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The block quote has to do with the redevelopment of the Jersey City waterfront and warehouse district. It does not mention this building "Hudson Greene" by name, but is apt material to provide context about the location.  I undid your deletion, and posted it to the article talk page with reasoning stated there.
 * I note that the block quote is quoted in the Horsley article, which does mention "Hudson Greene" (this building} by name.
 * I am not suggesting that it affects, one way or the other, the question of WP:Sigcov or WP:GNG, etc. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:19, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


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