Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hugh Crawford (sheriff)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 02:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Hugh Crawford (sheriff)

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Contested prod, not based on reliable sources. PatGallacher (talk) 19:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I am not disputing that this person would be notable if the content could be verified, but I don't think it can, the only two sources are not reliable. One is a work from the early 18th century, incredibly dated. The other is the Clan Crawford website, which does not appear to be a reliable source or based on reliable source, it repeats family legends of various verifiability. PatGallacher (talk) 19:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * What is it about the "dated" work that makes it unreliable? I haven't read it myself, but if the only issue is the age of the source, I don't see why that would make it unreliable, especially since the subject died 400 years before the source was published. Not accepting old sources seems to run against WP:NOTTEMPORARY. 137.43.188.89 (talk) 14:42, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - There is plenty of source material to write a fully verified stub, for example,, ,. I see no reason why these might not be reliable, despite some of them being quite old. (note: Hugh Crawfurd is an alternate spelling) 137.43.188.89 (talk) 15:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: I'm sold. How is a work considered unreliable just because it's from the 18th century?  Given all the crap that comes out in today's tabloid press, 24-hour news cycle and the blogosphere, I'd be more inclined to trust older sources.  Nha Trang  Allons! 18:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep per the others. We've no reason to doubt the veracity of Crawfurd as a historian and genealogist. Pax 04:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Knight and sheriff. The date of a work does not invalidate it as a source. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The three additional sources should be incorproated into the article. He clearly meets notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
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