Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hugh Reed and the Velvet Underpants


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The result was   Keep on the strength of the newspaper mentions found by Paul Erik. This band looks like it may have trouble fitting the requirements of WP:MUSIC. I don't see that they have two or more recordings on a major label, for example. But if they have enough direct coverage in third-party sources, that would take precedence. I hope somebody will dig up the references whose names were found by Paul and add them to the article. (We need to know if they were in-depth articles or were just passing mentions). If this is not eventually done, another AfD might be considered. EdJohnston (talk) 14:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hugh Reed and the Velvet Underpants

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Contested PROD. Notability not established per WP:BAND, the only reference provided that isn't the band's website doesn't work, and a google search isn't promising. Roleplayer (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per no sources. Probably isn't even real, for all I know. --DerRichter (talk) 22:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Definitely real - they play at my local every couple of months. I'm not convinced they warrant an article, though, despite the number of sources. —  iride  scent  23:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 23:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * delete non-notable Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment They are real all right; I was their original drummer! I am the author of this article which I posted because the band, and especially the eccentricities of Hugh himself, has a place in Glasgow culture and beyond.  I am trying to build on this and would appreciate the article being given time so that others with experience of the band and its impact can contribute. Bugalowbill (talk  —Preceding comment was added at 10:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * While I do not want to discourage you from editing, the Sandbox is a better place for working on articles before they are ready for mainspace. I cannot just take the word of another editor that this band or any of the facts about this band in this article are true unless there are reliable sources. --DerRichter (talk) 21:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment I accept the article is still work in progress, but I had placed a template describing it as a stub. As I said earlier, I hope that others will contribute as I think that will improve the piece. I have taken on borad your comments about sources and added some more which should be more independent.Bugalowbill (talk  —Preceding comment was added at 09:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. I searched for sources in a library database of newspaper articles. There are several mentions of this band over the years, mostly in articles about frontman Hugh Reed (Hugh O'Hagan). Examples include "Extra! extra! Reed all about it!", Matt Bendoris. The Sun. London (UK): Jan 16, 1998. pg. 46 (focuses on Hugh Reed's appearance in Trainspotting); "Look Hugh's wound up the Big Yin", The Sun. London (UK): May 8, 1998. pg. 35 (Reed talked about his band to actor Billy Connolly during a film shoot); Tom Shields & Ken Smith. The Herald. Glasgow (UK): Jan 25, 1999. pg. 13 (Reed is a fan of John Cale and gave him a Velvet Underpants album); "Profile: The musician, Hugh O'Hagan Election 99", Jim McBeth. The Scotsman. Edinburgh (UK): Apr 29, 1999. pg. 12 (Hugh Reed runs for office as a Scottish National Party candidate; article mentions touring with Debbie Harry of Blondie). I also discovered there is an entry about the band in The Great Scots Musicography by Martin C Strong, Mercat Press 2002. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 01:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


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