Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hugh of Austrasia


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The result was keep. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:35, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Hugh of Austrasia

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 * Hugh of Austrasia
 * Hughes d'Austrasia
 * Hughes d'Austrasie
 * Chuc
 * Chucus
 * Chugus

I believe that this article should be deleted due to the nature of this article being sourced by nothing but unsourced genealogical entries on findagrave. In fact, if you search on Google for Hugh of Austrasia, all of the first page is nothing but unsourced genealogical sources, or the Wikipedia article.

I have actually heard of Hugh before, while doing genealogical research. I came across it on a very poorly sourced megatree and I have a feeling that either, this dude isn't real, or he is unverifiable.

Setting a Google search parameter for anytime before Dec 31 of 2015, shows no results for me on Hugh whatsoever, except for a WordPress, and a few other sources that don't provide any sources, and seem to be merely lists or previously stated genealogical sites. I think that someone needs to show me a scholarly article or source mentioning Hugh, or else this article should be deleted, perhaps along with some other Austrasian Kings.

EytanMelech (talk) 20:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. See the text and the references in the corresponding article in the French Wikipedia, fr:Hugues (maire du palais) Automatically notable as either the equivalent of a cabinet minister or as a de facto ruler of Austrasia. I added Find sources for different versions of his name. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:48, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The French article includes as references two editions of a book on the ancestors of Charlemagne. I have added both to the English article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:07, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's nice to finally have a source for the article. EytanMelech (talk) 19:47, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Eastmain. The article has been expanded He was a court minister of the absolute monarchy. Automatically notable and passes WP:NPOL. VocalIndia (talk) 17:52, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Not crazy about the sources available so far, but after reading about his role I feel it is worth keeping. Jamesallain85 (talk) 21:48, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that the new additions and sourcing makes it a viable article. EytanMelech (talk) 15:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Mayor of the Palace was an exceptionally important post, so I think keeping per WP:COMMONSENSE is called for even though the sources are not wonderful. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


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