Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hulk (film series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hulk (film series)

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This article sprung into being fully misshapen at 51K. There are entire sections others have recognized as being copied form other articles, the grammar is so knotted it cannot be teased free, it has numerous instances where text goes to a misleading, or unrelated, article. The article presupposes the two films are inherently related in ways they are not, casting the second as a sequel, reboot, and requel throughout, and suggesting they are part of a cohesive trilogy, when that's also not demonstrated. There may be enough for an article about the Hulk films to be constructed, but what currently exists in the two individual articles is far more monitored and reviewed by a wider cross section of editors, is better cited, and clearly represents most of what this article has plagiarized. As such, I recommend a deletion, without salting, in case a good article can truly be constructed. I sat with this article in current form trying to revise just the opening, for over 30 minutes, and it simply cannot be done so as to represent the article consistently. This really began to feel to me like a fan's poor understanding of the facts, combined with wishful thinking about what could have been, rather than an objective, neutral article recounting the facts. ThuranX (talk) 06:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per ThuranX, the article presents misleading information as fact.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 11:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * comment: Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige stated in an interview that the The Incredible Hulk is "more of a reboot" and "not so much a sequel" to Ang Lee's Hulk which is directly contrary to what the article states. Louis Letterier also stated that "We're starting a new franchise". As the entire article is based around the false premise that the two films are a part of the same franchise, the article can not be saved by normal editing.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:19, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * On second thought perhaps the article could be improved by removing any assumed correlation between the two listed films and presenting the article as Hulk in film with the inclusion of other notable animated cinematic works.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You may want to consider Hulk in other media instead of Hulk in film. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 13:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that the point of a film series article is to serve as an overview of multiple films, especially three or more. For example, if readers are at a given film's article, then they may want to know details of the series. When they go to the film series article, they can learn about two and more films in that same place, such as regarding shared cast and changing critical reception. However, with a so-called "film series" of just two films, there is no such benefit. The readers can just go to the one other film article and find out information about that film. The later of two films would obviously have background information related to the first film. ThuranX, however, your argument sounds like "it is too much work to clean up, so delete it as an easy solution". I think a downsizing of content is definitely in order, but I think we should consider doing this immediately and adding minimal shared information at Hulk in other media. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 13:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Two films not connected by the same continuity do not make a film series.-5- (talk) 06:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per -5-, plain and simple. Cliff smith  talk  22:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.