Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 21:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling

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Short-lived reality show that died after only eight episodes. Zero sourcing found anywhere that did not originate from CMT, the network it aired on. Prod declined. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:12, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:12, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:21, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Delete Redirect per below Only one reference, doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG. — Czello 21:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hulk Hogan per CHEAP.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:22, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Sources found, changing to keep.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hulk Hogan as a valid WP:ATD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Nobody looked for sources? TV Guide, The Oklahoman, IGN, Reuters, Reuters again, Bleacher Report, Hollywood Reporter, Hollywood Reporter (archived), Tampa Bay Times, Slam! Wrestling, PWInsider, Pro Wrestling Dot Net, Baltimore Sun.LM2000 (talk) 11:42, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I struck the TV Guide link because I apparently posted the wrong one. Here's a detailed article from Tuscaloosa News that we can replace it with though. I can keep finding sources, but I think it should be clear that this point that many more exist.LM2000 (talk) 11:11, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Worth noting there is some additional sourcing at de:Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling. I'll take a look later, internationally broadcast, seems incredibly unlikely it got no press. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:59, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per LM2000. Several sources covers the show. Looks like nobody tried to find them. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Well of those sources, Pro Wrestling, https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=34525&p=1],, seem like fan sites that don't look like reliable sources to me.  is a short article that explains the show,  and ,  are very short pieces that just list contestants (and WP:NOTINHERITED applies, it's not a notable event just because notable people take part),  is mostly about Hulk Hogan rather than the show itself, ,  are copies of Hollywood Reporter articles (so cannot be considered a separate significant coverage from HR),  is an interview, which cannot be counted as significant, independent coverage. I cannot access Baltimore Sun, so no comment on that article.  I don't see enough significant, independent coverage about the programme in reliable sources to pass WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:45, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Just chiming in to say that prowrestling.net, pwinsider, and slamwrestling are all considered reliable sources per WP:PW/RS. — Czello</i> 16:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The PW Insider and Slam Wrestling sources, reliable or not, only mention the show in passing. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The Baltimore Sun article is an eight paragraph preview of the show. PWInsider actually dedicated weekly coverage to the show.LM2000 (talk) 07:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per LM2000. Quite a few reliable sources. The objections to several of the sources seem mistaken or disingenuous. For example, the Tampa Bay Times article explaining the show is exactly what is needed to establish notability. Slam Wrestling is accepted as a reliable source, and it definitely does not just mention the show in passing--the entire article is about the show--a contestant's reasons for appearing, training to appear, etc. The Baltimore Sun article, while the inability for people in some locations to access it is definitely valid, is also a detailed discussion of the show. As for The Oklahoman, the fact that a reliable source interviews the person behind the show, asking specifically about the show, definitely asserts some notability. WP:RS and WP:GNG are both easily met for this one. GaryColemanFan (talk) 07:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per found sources listed by LM2000. matt91486 (talk) 17:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hulk Hogan. Several of the sources that have been found all have the same wording, indicating they a PR and other ones don't look reliable. It looks like clickbait. I don't trust a single one of them. The Tampa Bay article is likely reliable, but it gives it a bad review. So it junk. That is very definition of promoting mediocrity. It is non-notable.   scope_creep Talk  10:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * How is the quality of the show relevant to whether or not it receives coverage to be notable? matt91486 (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not at all sure what you mean by The Tampa Bay article is likely reliable, but it gives it a bad review. So it junk. That is very definition of promoting mediocrity.. Should we also disregard references that say Mortal Kombat: Annihilation is a bad movie? — <i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i> 09:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep It's covered multiple times by Reuters, what more do people want? CT55555 (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's not my type of entertainment but keep by sources identified above. gidonb (talk) 15:35, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


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