Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human (Star Trek) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus with leave to speedy renominate due to this being a bad faith nom. However, I would advise trying a merge proposal on the article's talk page first. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Human (Star Trek)
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Plot only coverage. I can find little evidence that Star Trek's treatment of the human race is notable. Anthem 15:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC) - Please discount any comments by Anthem of Joy, he's a sock puppet. Mathewignash (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It always helps on a second AFD to say what, if anything, has changed since the previous nomination. Sergeant Cribb (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * In this case I think what has changed is consensus on the notability of fictional-universe information with no sources talking about real-world impact. They used to be routinely kept, now unless there is real-life significance they are typically deleted. HominidMachinae (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:15, 10 June 2011 (UTC).


 * Delete as non-notable. No significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.  Sergeant Cribb (talk) 16:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge into either or both of United Federation of Planets, where humans in the Trek universe live, or Humans in fiction or some equivalent. Jclemens (talk) 04:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Star Trek races. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 06:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The human race is obviously central to Star Trek - the norm to which all other aliens, robots &c. are compared. The book Star Trek: the human frontier discusses the nature and role of humanity in Star Trek.  This is a substantial source and there are lots more critical sources which cover aspects of this topic such as Star trek and history: race-ing toward a white future, Law of the Federation: Images of Law, Lawyers, and the Legal System in Star Trek, the Next Generation, Teaching toward the 24th century: Star Trek as social curriculum, Sexual generations:" Star trek, the next generation" and gender, Popular imagination and identity politics: Reading the future in Star Trek: The Next Generation, &c. Warden (talk) 07:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, most of the characters in fiction are human but we don't have articles like Human (Horace Walpole). The book Star Trek: the human frontier discusses the question "what does it mean to be human" as explored in Star Trek, it does not discuss what human beings in the Star Trek universe are like.  The others are about topics like "Law in Star Trek" which might make an interesting article, just not this one.  Sergeant Cribb (talk) 08:32, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete No out-of-universe context or notability. --Crusio (talk) 21:04, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * KEEP and SPEEDY CLOSE, a bad faith nomination by a sock puppet. Let a human being reopen it if they want. Mathewignash (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a perfectly sensible discussion, irrespective of the status of the nominator. I propose continuing per WP:IAR.  Sergeant Cribb (talk) 19:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * if This is speedy closed I will nominate immediately after. So why not let this continue with all the good-faith editors contributing already? HominidMachinae (talk) 01:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note Anthem of joy has been indef blocked as a sockpuppet of Claritas . --Tothwolf (talk) 03:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: The concept of human from Star Wars as an individual subject does not meet general notability guideline and it is a plot-only description of a fictional work. The article is a content fork of list of Star Trek races, which already handles all fictional races in the Star Trek universe and human is already listed there. I do not believe that the content merits being merged since it is original research by synthesis and only one sentence is referenced, and given the disambiguation in the article title, it is not a plausible search term, so a redirect is not justified either. Jfgslo (talk) 14:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.