Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human Rights Party (New Zealand)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of political parties in New Zealand. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:48, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Human Rights Party (New Zealand)

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Tiny non-notable party that received so few votes they could be friends and extended family. News coverage is basically about a single non-notable (and manufactured) incident that resulted in a $200 fine.

Related Articles for deletion/Anthony Ravlich, party founder. -- GreenC  20:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)  GreenC  20:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  20:49, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  20:49, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Is there a notability criteria for political parties (I couldn't find it)? If there isn't then I would certainly have trouble applying the term notable to a party which has never had a candidate gain more votes in a NZ General Election than I did! DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 21:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, we have had that discussion before and it was Vardion who gave the answer, but I can't recall the details. I've prodded Vardion and he's been on wiki rather recently, but it states on the user page that "I am not paying particularly close attention to my account, and am unlikely to check it very regularly". I suggest we wait until Vardion has commented here (unless, of course, this takes forever). I shall endeavour to write the answer down on the NZ politics page.  Schwede 66  19:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment It's been long enough that I can't really remember what may have been said on the subject before, I'm afraid. Generally speaking, I think that registration of a party with the Electoral Commission is considered qualification enough for an article, and I seem to recall party pages being deleted if they fizzled out without ever contesting an election, but I'm not sure about the middle ground of parties which do stand candidates but can't/won't register. I'd like to keep some mention of them, since they'll show up in our election articles and people may well wonder who they are, but I'd have to say that if I were doing it today, I probably wouldn't have created this article - at least, not as a separate page. I've wondered sometimes whether we could/should have an article called something like "Unregistered political parties in New Zealand" where groups such as this could be dealt with en masse, without giving them separate articles unless there was some special notability to them. This would allow us to explain every party which pops up in the election results article without needing to give them separate attention. Such an article could also provide general data about unregistered parties as a whole (how many have contested each election, how many votes went to such parties in each election, the closest any of them have come to success, whether parties which have started out like this have ever managed to register, and suchlike). The individual parties may not be particularly notable in themselves, but I think the presence of unregistered parties in elections is something worth noting, and if we do so, attaching a minimal catalogue of these parties doesn't strike me as unreasonable. So while I can't really see this particular article as notable in itself, perhaps it could be worthwhile to merge the content into some sort of more general list? (Which would have to be created, of course...) -- Vardion (talk) 23:21, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge Thanks, Vardion, for giving this some context. I concur that we should have an article Unregistered political parties in New Zealand and the content of this page should be merged with it.  Schwede 66  00:19, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing about the ideology or politics of the party, nothing about what they try to accomplish. It also seems to be an unregistered party with not affiliations to other organisations either. The article doesn't prove the notewothiness of the party, and therefor it should be deleted. Arms Jones (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to List of political parties in New Zealand, or any spin-off article using that as a base, as per comments from Vardion and Schwede66. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:32, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect as above. The court case may be notable, as one of the very few prosecutions of this crime. but that would be a completely different article. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.