Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human rights in the United States (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. AfD is not cleanup, as noted below; a massive need for a rewrite is according to no page valid grounds for deletion assuming other factors such as WP:N are met. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 00:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Human_rights_in_the_United_States
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Despite continual attempts to reach a solution, the entire article takes on a negative view and is full of anti-American bias, for example Health Care or Abu Garhib Prison Abuse. If we were to fix the article, a massive rewrite would have to occur. I am not requesting a deletion because of it, but rather because of the apparent futility to make any changes that would decrease the bias as Wikipedia is not a soapbox, or a citizen of another country's Opinion. Rockstone35 (talk) 02:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - I agree that POV is a problem for this article, but it's definitely a notable topic that deserves to be included. Other controversial topics are included (albeit with occasional protection); I think this one should be too. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking through the article's talk page, this seems like taking a content dispute to AfD. Dendlai (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - four nominations later, it's still notable and encyclopedic. See WP:SOFIXIT. Bearian (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. I'm known for my difficult blocks of vandals. Bearian (talk) 02:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep- POV problems are not for AFD. The topic is notable and needs documented. Umbralcorax (talk) 04:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the wrong forum for POV discussions. Subject is clearly notable and necesarry. --J.Mundo (talk) 05:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and speedy close Content issues that involve POV are material for dispute resolution and rewriting. AFD is the wrong venue. - Mgm|(talk) 12:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete and start from the bottom is the only way to remove the article's POV problems. While it is true that AFD is not for cleanup, we must be more proactive in removing NPOV violations. Sceptre (talk) 13:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article doesn't need to be deleted to remove POV problems.  It is practical to fix the POV problems, so WP:DELETION requires us to keep the article. JulesH (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep These claims of POV are pretty weak-sauce. I actually bothered to read the article, and it was surprisingly neutral given the inherently inflammatory subject matter. The health care section could use a little work, but that is 1 section out of 45. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Also, this is an inappropriate venue for resolving editing disputes. AfD hero (talk) 22:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - POV issues are not a tangible reason for deletion. &mdash; neuro  (talk)  13:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is about human right in US and the subject of the article can be a subject of an article on wikipedia becuause User:Lucifero4


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.