Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hungary–North Korea relations


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hungary–North Korea relations

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no evidence of any notable trade or diplomatic relationship Google news LibStar (talk) 06:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions.  --  J mundo 06:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No sign of notability. Stricken my vote, number of sources provided below. Squash Racket (talk) 07:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment If there are no signs at the moment, that's not surprising, but remember that there would have likely been plenty of ties before 1989. I can't provide sources, so I'll not say "keep", but I'll be surprised if there weren't significant relations.  Nyttend (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, just provide some sources. No need to write the article, just indicate notability. Squash Racket (talk) 17:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - true, there might have been a notable relationship pre-1989, but we don't have the sources to establish that. If they surface at a later date, I have no prejudice against re-creation. - Biruitorul Talk 17:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep  The relations of N Korea with essentially any substantial nation is likely to be notable. asserting "unsourceable" in this case requires a check of print sources. DGG (talk) 01:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Off the top of my head I can think of a couple of things that might help to develop this article:
 * Hungary was the first Eastern Bloc nation to establish relations with South Korea (see Hungary–South Korea relations; sources there); obviously this led to a downturn in relations with the North, who recalled Kim Jong-il's brother from Hungary as a result
 * Participation of North Korean exchange students in the Hungarian Revolution of 1956; see for example this Barry Farber column: ; also here's one in Korean "<헝가리 혁명 50주년> ④ 북한 유학생도 참가했다" (50th anniversary of the Hungarian Revolution #4: North Korean exchange students also joined) ; also not a direct relation but one scholar claims that the Hungarian Revolution diverted the USSR's attention and gave North Korea the opportunity to purge reformists in their own government
 * Modern defections of North Koreans in Hungary


 * Cheers, cab (talk) 01:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep per CaliforniaAliBaba (thank you for the research!)--Caspian blue 00:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A totally disruptive nomination. --Russavia Dialogue 14:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable in the usual way. I see no reason to treat this article in a highly irregular way, it does not seem to merit unusual considerations.  See  and so forth.  Wily D  13:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, per CaliforniaAliBaba's research. I'm not surprised that a Google search would return few significant hits: as pointed out by DGG, almost all of the material would be offline in print, most likely in non-English sources. -- llywrch (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


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