Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hussein Ammar (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. The consensus here is that sources don't supply SIGCOV. Thanks to editors who spend the time to research non-English sources. Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hussein Ammar
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO, as all sources are either routine coverage or passing mentions. The article was previously deleted in March through an AfD, but has been re-created. JML1148 ( talk &#124; contribs ) 03:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Football,  and Iraq. JML1148 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per prior AfD. Possibly WP:TOOSOON, as they've since participated in a at least one friendly and seemingly more. But doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE yet. &mdash;siro&chi;o 08:51, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:02, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep -an international player who participated in several matches with the national team, and the sources indicate that. I can't find a single logical reason for the deletion. SonOfBasra (talk) 15:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The nominator has stated WP:GNG failure as the reason. Playing on the national team has nothing to do with notability. Hundreds of articles on capped players have been deleted this year and rightly so. Do you dispute that Hussein Ammar fails GNG and can you please provide evidence of GNG if you do indeed believe that he meets it? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting, I see the claim that this subject fails GNG but no discussion here about the article sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per SonOfBasra. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 17:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As Spiderone has said above in response to 's !vote, being on the national team does not mean that the subject of the article is notable. JML1148 ( talk &#124; contribs ) 05:33, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete due to the simple fact that there is no evidence of significant coverage. The two keep !votes make arguments that are not rooted in policy. --MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 18:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article fails WP:GNG; I can only find trivial coverage in online Arabic-language sources (lots of match reports, and this Iraq News Agency match preview that infers Ammar is an "influential player" for his club over the course of a single sentence) but nothing that approaches SIGCOV. Jogurney (talk) 02:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, comprehensive coverage in a variety of sources is enough for SIGCOV IMO.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - this Al-Mirbad source appears to be the only decent one and even that manages to write 4 paragraphs about him without actually saying anything of substance (basically just says that he's the only one from Basra in the Iraq team). I was going to do a source analysis table but the function seems to be broken. I'm not seeing a GNG pass anyway. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - the sources in the article are sufficient and varied, in addition to the presence of the player's database in the most important sites, which are mentioned in the External Links section. SonOfBasra (talk) 15:33, 9 July 2023 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote Liz Read! Talk! 06:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC))


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.