Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hutch (sound engineer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This is not the first AfD I've seen where it's been lamented that sound engineers get short shrift when it comes to WP:N. It may be worth starting a discussion or RFC to develop a better WP:SNG for sound engineers. Be that as it may, there's clear consensus here to delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Hutch (sound engineer)

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Fails WP:CREATIVE and WP:GNG. None of the sources in his article are about him specifically, and as to the claim to be a member of the band Queens of the Stone Age, that article only mentions him in passing twice. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nova Scotia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete It's a shame that the media doesn't write about prolific producers, audio engineers, mastering engineers, and other behind-the-scenes music professionals, but they don't. That means there's no way they'd ever meet GNG. Short of winning a Grammy or a some other major award, there's no way that we would ever consider creating an article for these subjects. Hutch is no different. This does not mean that he's not important to the record making process, it only means that he's not notable as a result. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep for the connection to QOTSA. Yes, it's a problem that sound engineers who are well-known within their field are ignored by WP, but that's how we keep space free for all those Pokemon and Batman villains. However some bands are big and long-established enough that their collaborations do get discussed, and QOTSA are one of those, per WP:MUSICBIO#6. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:31, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Criterion #6 is for musicians, not sound engineers. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:30, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 02:11, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete His article seems to solely be his association with Queens of the Stone Age - even the references are things like band profiles - and notability is not inherited. KaisaL (talk) 02:28, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Walter Görlitz and WP:NOTINHERITED. Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:59, 13 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.