Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hutchinson Middle School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District. (non-admin closure)  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  05:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Hutchinson Middle School

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Non-notable middle school. Pam D  16:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, for a middle school that does not meet the requirements of GNG. There does not appear to be significant independent coverage about this school. The fact that it is a California Distinguished School does not make it notable; the state hands out that title like candy on Halloween. In any given city there are probably more schools with that award than without. --MelanieN (talk) 19:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District per WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG. I can't find substantial independent reliable sources to show notability. It seems to be a fairly good school, but not exceptional enough to be notable for that. More than 200 CA schools were recognized as California Distinguished Schools in 2013, and the school's API of 845 is above the state (792) and county (785) averages, but still just barely into the 8th decile. There is an unsourced claim that the school was the first school in La Mirada when it opened in 1956 as an elementary school, but that does not seem sufficient to show notability. Note that the article was written "in collaboration with the principal and the dean of students as we decided that this school needs to get a better online representation."   Meters (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I believe this school is as notable as all the other questionable schools. This school was the first school opened in La Mirada and the founder was teh one who United and Unified Norwalk and La Mirada into the Norwalk - La Mirada Unified School District (NLMUSD). If this school is deemend NOT notable, we might as well spend years bickering back and forth on the notability of every school nationwide. Thank you for your consideration, STJMLCC (talk) 20:28, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * STJMLCC is the creator of the article. Meters (talk) 21:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  20:41, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 *  Keep Please see the latest comment on this discussion by: caaaaaaaaarrrl @Viva_La_Resistonce at the previous site of this discussion Talk:Hutchinson Middle School STJMLCC (talk) 03:40, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * duplicate keep stuck (again). The other editor can make his own comments if he wishes. Meters (talk) 03:43, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I appologize for unmarking the strikethrough, I thought it was for other purposes. As for the other editor, he is apparently unaware of this page and thought that the discussion was on the other page. STJMLCC (talk) 03:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I too agree with Viva_La_Resistonce and STJMLCC. This school is notable and is connected historically to la Mirada. Not only that, but it is overall a better school than other middle schools in the area and has a greater accedemic performance and higher achieving students. It should not be redirected and should be kept here. Please reconsider your statements and let this page be. my apologies for posting this on the other page. I was unaware what AFD stood for. ಠ_ಠ @TNTdonut (talk) 06:07, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep As an old user with a new account, I came across this and have decided to support STJMLCC. It seems to me that this school is very notable compared to other middle schools. Please refrain from redirecting it. Wikipedia should be an environment with information of all kinds. After reading STJMLCC's provided articles, I have also came to the conclusion that this school has a historical background and therefore is notable. caaaaaaaaarrrl @Viva_La_Resistonce (talk) 00:04, 22 November 2014 (UTC) [This is his post, but I just moved it to this page ಠ_ಠ @TNTdonut (talk) 06:15, 22 November 2014 (UTC)]


 * Thank you TNTdonut, I am completely fine with you moving that post caaaaaaaaarrrl @Viva_La_Resistonce (talk) 06:17, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I am curious to know how as an ‘old user with a new account’ you suddenly became aware of this article, and that it was under deletion discussion and created a new account today that has been used exclusively to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:03, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment The users recommending the article to be kept on account of the school's historical connections or academic performance may wish to review Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organisations and companies (which also covers educational institutions). Specifically, those guidelines point out that an organisation does not inherit notability from who- or whatever it may be connected to, and possesses no inherent notability simply by existing, or because editors perceive it to be important or better than other similar organisations. The primary criterion for establishing notability is substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources. It's the apparent lack of such sources that's the reason for this discussion, and it remains unaddressed. Regards, Indrek (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Well in that case, we might as well scrap all the pages on Wikipedia. My thoughts on this are the fact that a historical school existing with some secondary coverage sources, such as the state, and ample primary sources can and should exist on Wikipedia in article form not redirect form.


 * Thank You For Your Assistance Regarding This Article, STJMLCC (talk) 14:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District per standard procedure as documented at as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:42, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Obviously, Redirect to Norwalk-La Mirada Unified School District per standard procedure as documented at as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Jacona (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.