Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hwang Min-hyun


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -  The   Magnificentist  19:44, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Hwang Min-hyun

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Non reliable and trivial mentions in non independent sources. No reliable and independent sources are found about this newbie. No notable awards etc. The article is also very promotional and contains huge number of external links to his YouTube channel. Mar11 (talk) 19:00, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep - multiple reliable sources exist. Subject meets WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. All the external link are removed. Cpcam065099 (talk) 14:37, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep I assume the sources provided meet the needs of GNG/MUSICBIO. I'm not an expert on this subject. If those outlets are reputable for coverage of this subject, then I think it's a solid keep. South Nashua (talk) 18:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - sources exist but most are Allkpop/Soompi considered unreliable WP:KO/RS - other references are trivial mentions of the group and give no weight to notability as an individual.Evaders99 (talk) 19:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I has changed the sources(in Korean) to be reliable and 6 of them mentioned Minhyun(민현) in the title which show he is the focus on the news and has notability as an individual..Cpcam065099 (talk) 04:00, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to NU'EST – seems to fail WP:MUSICBIO, he doesnt have solo musical releases outside of group, and participating in Produce 101 doesnt make contestants notable, obviously. It cant pass WP:GNG as an actor either since both appearances in "Filmography" section seems to be cameo appearances in single episodes, he need to have at least a couple of main roles to count as an actor. Snowflake91  (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * According to WP:MUSICBIO, Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.


 * 1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.

Firstly, I think he pass the above criteria. Although some of the news I listed wrote him as NU'EST's Minhyun but I think this is become there are many people has the same name in Korean. It is more concrete to describe him and he is the focus of the news. Therefore, he Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself. I had looked other kpop artist article that only has 5-6 sources so I guess it is acceptable in this amount. The sources I listed is over this number. After he started participating in Produce 101, he become more notable and more news mention him. I add those news as source but User:Snowflake91 say "produce 101 section is too detailed compared to other sections" and delete it. Besides, he play the main role in Reckless Family and Their Distance instead of cameo appearances in single episodes.Cpcam065099 (talk) 16:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link where he is mentioned in a sources, which are not just trivial, short routine reports of NU'EST / Produce 101 activities? Something like this (click) ? Snowflake91  (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for improving the article and explain what I did wrong. I think we have different understanding of trivial source. For me, if sources describe the subject(Minhyun) as major part, it is non-trivial. Can you tell me where request long routine reports to help me understand its criteria? I cant get what you want or can you give example of Jung Chae-yeon who has similar situation to Minhyun.Cpcam065099 (talk) 04:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep – I added the sources for acting career; he probably passes the notability there since he has two main roles in what appears to be notable film / sitcom, but on notability criterias, it is stated --> "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.", so what exactly is "multiple" in this criterias? Two films, three films, ten films? Snowflake91  (talk) 17:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:28, 7 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per : I also want to add that his ranking in Produce 101 helps with his notability, and to add, he is a member of Wanna One. Tibbydibby (talk) 02:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


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