Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hybrid Theory (EP)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hybrid Theory (EP)

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Non-notable EP. Has not charted on music charts, and there is no substantial coverage in reliable sources. It fails WP:NALBUMS. Tim meh  ! ( review me ) 03:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 04:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:NALBUMS: "In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." The distribution of this album is a bit strange, but given the popularity of the band (Linkin Park), they get a little extra slack. :) Zetawoof(&zeta;) 05:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:NALBUMS also states that "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." It doesn't look like this article meets those criteria. Tim  meh  ! ( review me ) 22:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep, per Zetawoof. Tezkag72 (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, this EP is a part of the band's history before they made a big breakthrough success in the mainstream media. Considering the status and popularity they've gained now, I say it's helpful to leave this article for improvement.davidmj926 (talk) 06:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet WP:NALBUMS on its own merits. Note that Zetawoof (and therefore Tezkag72) and davidmj926 make invalid arguments for keeping, failing to address the notability issue. This self-released EP didn't chart, failed to receive significant media coverage, and wasn't even released by Linkin Park, but by the group's forebear, Hybrid Theory. Noteworthy and sourced info could and should be included in the Linkin Park article but this EP should not have its own article. TheJazzDalek (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hybrid Theory and Linkin Park are one and the same. There is no distinction between the two. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 15:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The distinction is that the EP was released by Hybrid Theory, not Linkin Park. That is an admittedly moot point, however. A point that is very relevant to this AFD is that even if they had been called Linkin Park at that point, they were completely unknown and no one took notice of the EP's release. TheJazzDalek (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - inherent notability from Linkin Park, important to be able to track the lineage of the band and their releases. The album is linked on several internal pages, which suggests it did influence their later work, and I believe the fact they later changed their name to be a minor nit-picky issue. Whatsmore, I'm not convinced there is a single article where the content could be merged. -Halo (talk) 04:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited. We should be judging this article on whether it alone is covered significantly by reliable sources. Linkin Park being notable does not make all of the band's releases notable. Tim  meh  04:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the high number of internal links is merely due to its inclusion in Linkin Park, which appears in every single Linkin Park related article. TheJazzDalek (talk) 08:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not pass WP:NALBUMS "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."  Already mention in the Linkin Park article, nothing else is needed.  Click23 (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.