Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyderabad Central


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hyderabad Central

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Article reads like a press release or spam. ("Mr. Biyani says that some 15 such malls will be opened in various cities across the country". Thanks Mr. Biyani for your spam). No references. Article author removed unref tag and prod tag without addressing concerns. -Nard 14:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep: add fact tags wherever reference is needed. --GDibyendu (talk) 05:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment the article is bordering on spam but the development is definitely costly enough to be notable.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable, nor encyclopedic, not to mentioned completed unreferenced. Eatabullet (talk) 12:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Never go by the current draft. Evaluate only after research. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep -- References, notability, encyclopedic =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Boy, they received a ticket for violating fire rules. That's some reference there. -Nard 01:45, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you being sarcastic? =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not being sarcastic. A link to a Google search does NOT INDICATE NOTABILITY per WP:GOOGLE. Those references aren't even all about the mall. Malls are not inherently notable. Sure there's a lot of businesses in them, so they make the papers once in awhile, but my hometown mall isn't even in Wikipedia. Let me ask you "keep" voters, do you actually intend to fix the article or are you just saying keep on principle? -Nard 10:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think you analyzed my google link correctly. I filtered only news sources. And WP:GOOGLE does have provisions for such a filtered search.
 * I provided a generic link to prove that 1. reliable, 2. verifiable, and 3. independent secondary sources exist, not as a means to provide a condensed list of references. From this compendium of possible references, a claim to notability can be ascertained.
 * With regards to malls your hometown, I don't see how that is pertinent to this discussion.
 * AFD is a debate, not a pledge to take up cleanup tasks.
 * =Nichalp  «Talk»=  20:19, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So you are endorsing keeping crap in Wikipedia then? "Oh yeah keep the article, it's crap, but maybe in 20 years someone will write a better article." The article, as it stands, is spam and should be speedily deleted. It does not meet any of the criteria for inclusion. Merely asserting, with a search engine list of results, that someone could write a better article is not sufficient. And incidentally, a good half those results were for entities other than this mall. -Nard 01:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I wish you would stop making fallacious assumptions, and stick to the point. AFD serves as a platform to debate the grey areas of notability, not a forum to dunk all articles because they are poorly written by authors unfamiliar to the wiki process. If notability is sufficiently ascertained, anyone can just courtesy blank offending "spammy" or unencyclopedic text to leave it as a stub article. May I once again point out that spammy text is not sufficient grounds to delete. To answer your comment on "in 20 years..." You might want to read WP:DEADLINE and also check the Wikipedia logo on the top left, that serves to remind us that the project is work in progress. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  05:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - I believe the reason that they recieved the "Ticket" and the entire "Plan 4 but built 5 theatres" fight makes this perticular mall notable. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  05:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment :Wow! They have WP articles on malls too!!(On a personal note, Hyderabad Central was the first mall I visited :-)) I'll not vote at present without verifying if there are some rules regarding notablility of commercial establishments. But I take exception to Nard's "Thanks Mr. Biyani for your spam" line. I hope he is not suggesting that Kishore Biyani is directly or indirectly involved in editing this article as a promotion for his mall. Kishore Biyani is one of India's most respected retail giants and among the first in the organised retail space. He features regularly in Indian business magazines(and quite frequently on the cover too). There is also a book about him. --Deepak D'Souza 06:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.