Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyper-Real Religion


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. we seem to have no reliable independant sources put forward for this so it fails WP:GNG and WP:NEO Spartaz Humbug! 07:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hyper-Real Religion

 * – ( View AfD View log )

Non-notable term, virtually coined by a single author, who himself is non-notable, and referenced mostly by his blog postings. Jeff3000 (talk) 13:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Lack of notability; reads more as a personal belief. SNaismith (talk) 14:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The creation of the term "hyper-real religion" is credited in the article to Adam Possamai who appears to be very much notable. The term appears to have gained currency, as evidenced by a google search of the term.  Certainly the article could be improved, but I don't think it should be deleted.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment A google book search of the term only refers to Adam Possamai and has not gained currency in reliable sources. Given the term is only really being used by Adam Possamai, at best the term should be merged into the Adam Possamai page, as the term by itself is not notable. -- Jeff3000 (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I created the page and understand that my references weren't adequate. However the concept and its author are notable and have been acclaimed in academic circles as a new understanding of new religious movements. I have more references to add and I know of a book coming out later this year on hyper-real religions with 23 chapters contributed by religious scholars. I believe this concept deserves a place on wikipedia due to its ability to explain misunderstood phenomena such as Matrixism, Jediism and The Church of Satan. I am new to wikipedia but I agree with Wikidan61, I thought that the article would be more appropriately marked for improvement rather than deletion Alangnixon (talk) 06:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment All of the sources you note in the article are from a single author, Adam Possamai, and thus the term had not recieved attention in other circles, and is not notable.  Given the term is only really being used by Adam Possamai, at best the term should be merged into the Adam Possamai page, as the term by itself is not notable.  -- Jeff3000 (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and Comment. The topic itself is notable, and is definetely and emerging field of study within religious and spirituality settings. The problem, however, is that there are a variety of terms used to describe 'Hyper-Real Religion,' with out any one being standard or, as far as I can tell, more used than the others.  Other terms used include Popular Spiritualism (book exmple, which also includes a chapter on Hyper-Real Religion), Contemporary Paganism (book example, Magic (or magical) Religion (book example), Modern Paganism, Virtual Religion, etc.  Adam Possamai is one of the few calling it Hyper-Real Religion, but his writings are influential, and have been peer-reviewed with, varying, acceptance by the academic world.  This article needs expansion, not deletion, and potentially a name change to a more general, widely accepted term, if one can be found.  Ravendrop (talk) 08:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - The links you sent don't use the word hyper-religion, and until a consensus has been made in reliable sources to call the phenomenon a hyper-real religion, the term is not notable, and is actually original research. Wikipedia should not be creating the consensus on a term.  Regards, -- 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.