Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hypocoristics for Dutch names


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. - Bobet 17:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Hypocoristics for Dutch names
This article is apparent WP:OR with no potential references found via search -- zero hits for the title search terms. The creator defends the inclusion of this article on the basis that Hypocoristics for Spanish names exists and suggests that removal would exhibit anti-Dutch bias. It's not my intent to be anti-Dutch, but I'm pro-project-policy. Erechtheus 23:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete but I remain pro-Dutch ;-). Non-encyclopedic; this is not a name directory. I'd say delete for Hypocoristics for Spanish names as well for the same reason, but as it has not been nominated for deletion I'll leave it at that. Agent 86 23:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I initially thought I'd nominate both as well, but they're not on equal footing. The Spanish article might not be appropriate for the encyclopedia, but it at least has sourcing. I certainly wouldn't object to an AfD on it, but I think it would need to be separate for the sourcing reason. Erechtheus 23:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article is not a "directory" of any kind. If anything, it is a glossary. 'mikka (t) 02:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Directory, glossary - both are reasons to delete because Wikipedia is not a glossary any more than it's a directory. Agent 86 18:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename to List of Dutch pet names, perhaps? --Dhartung | Talk 00:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. The topic is encyclopedic, see below. `'mikka (t) 02:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: "pet names" is ambiguous: think about Snoopy, Fido, Garfield, and you see my point. Carlossuarez46 02:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * keep. The title is descriptive rather than some specific term, and absence of google search is meaningless. Lack of references is not big deal. We are not talking about something controversial here. I am quite sure there are quite a few Dutch namebooks in existence. Gogling for "dutch names" gives quite a few thoussands of google hits. I have found the article interesting: it shows a pet name formation distinct from, say English, and it may well be made in a solid article; examples exist, see eg (not exactly on topic; just to show encyclopedic potential, and interesting, too; quoting: "For someone just starting Dutch research, a Dutch name is like a foreign word."). `'mikka (t) 02:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK here is even a more solid one: "DUTCH NAMING CONVENTIONS". So I guess the nomination was done in great haste without making reasonable check. `'mikka (t) 02:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Before you go around making accusations about the lack of a reasonable check, please explain to us how the personal webpages you have located pass WP:RS. Erechtheus 03:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * they pass WP:CommonSense. Once again, this is not some conspiracy theory or political rumors you may expoect fraud or fantasy. I am taking back accusations and apologize, since I see the nomination is based on genuine personal understanding of wikipedia. Still, I have to disagree with you, colleague, sorry.`'mikka (t) 19:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment "Quite a few Dutch namebooks in existence". You must be kidding. I was inundated by books every time my wife was pregnant. Well, many English, French and Russian names are now frequent and current in the Dutch language area, and some of these names are subject to "shortening" that would sound very strange in the original language. Dominique is shortened to Niek (also the shortened form of Nikolass) when the child is a boy, to Dom or Dommi when it is a girl. Tanja becomes Tan - in Belgium at least. Evelyn in all forms and pronunciations is shortened to Evy or Evie. "Kat" (yes, it also mean cat) can stand for many female names, and is rather awkward when you have a daughter called Kathelijn AND a daughter called Katja (like I have). While in the Netherlands only the female short forms are used for official registration at town hall (Cor or Neel are officially Conelis but Neeltje is registered), in the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium the short forms are also registered for boys. So, this article can actually be expanded a "little".--Pan Gerwazy 13:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment to comment: "you must be kidding": no I am not. "quite a few" in English language is a politically correct way to say "a whole shitload of truck of these bloody books about baby names" `'mikka (t) 19:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment to comment to comment: Sorry, Mikka, but really, I was only kidding when I wrote "you must be kidding". Actually, I thought it was a nice pun on the word "kid". Does not sound so funny anymore when I read it all over now, of course. :<) --Pan Gerwazy 10:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * keep. As per mikka (t) --Pan Gerwazy 13:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per mikka. Carlossuarez46 02:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


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