Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'll-It (group)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Daniel (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I'll-It (group)

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Fails WP:GNG and Notability (music). Primary purpose appears to be promoting a new group - WP:PROMO. At best, WP:TOOSOON based on the comments of reviewers while it was in draft. Geoff &#124; Who, me? 13:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete/Dratify as per nom. Failed WP:GNG, WP:BAND at this point of time, showing no WP:SIGCOV apart of passing mentions from R U Nexts related reportings.  — 🎄🎆 Paper9oll  🎆🎄 (🔔 • 📝) ' 14:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and South Korea. CptViraj (talk) 14:06, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This page was originally a redirect, maybe that option should be considered. Liz Read! Talk! 22:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Reply It was a draft article which was repeatedly moved to mainspace by its creator and then draftified more than a few times by several reviewers who found it lacking. I thought a full AFD review might put the whole back-and-forth thing to some kind of end.
 * Geoff &#124; Who, me? 23:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand. It's just when I looked at the page history, I saw that the page was originally a Redirect and just thought I'd add that fact to the discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete/Dratify ditto per Paper9oll. Just too soon write anything about, wait until they actually debut and such.Evaders99 (talk) 23:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails GNG, nothing found from WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Source eval:
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! Comments !! Source
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 1. "CULTURE K-WAVE HYBE's New Girl Group Final Member Lineup Revealed: Which 'R U NEXT' Contestants Made It?". International Business Times. 3 September 2023.
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 2. ^ Jeong, Seung-min (2023-09-02). "'알유넥스트' 여정 마무리...하이브 차기 걸그룹 '아일릿' 결성" [‘RU Next’ journey concludes... Hive’s next girl group ‘Illit’ formed]. MHN Sports / MHN KPOP NEWS (in Korean). Retrieved 2023-09-02.
 * Promo about video teaser || 3. ^ "하이브 새 걸그룹 누구?...'알유넥스트', 티저 영상 공개" [Who is Hybe's new girl group?...'RU Next', teaser video released]. MBN (in Korean). 7 June 2023 – via Naver.
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 4. ^ Dash, Pratyusha (2023-09-02). "R U Next? unveils the final lineup and name of HYBE and BELIFT LAB's newest girl group". Pinkvilla. Retrieved 2023-09-02.
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 5. ^ Yoon, So-yeon (2023-09-03). "'R U Next?' winners form girl group I'LL-IT ahead of debut". Korea JoongAng Daily. Retrieved 2023-09-03.
 * Not a ref || 6. ^ Circle Digital Chart:
 * Not a ref || 7. ^ Billboard South Korea Songs Chart:
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 8. ^ Go, In-hye (October 10, 2023). "아일릿, 좌충우돌 첫 여행 리얼리티…'아일 라이크 잇'" [I'll-It, first travel reality show with ups and downs...'I'll Like It'] (in Korean). Newsis. Retrieved October 24, 2023 – via Naver.
 * }
 * Given the article history, oppose drafting but support SALTing the name so AfC needs to approve any future article. I think a review of the author's talk page User talk:ImAudrey shows they are basically edit warring the article into mainspace and the closer should take this into consideration.  // Timothy :: talk  01:15, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - I still stand by the opinion to draftify the article. I respect your opinion, but the reasons you gave about the cited sources seem more likely to support leaving the article in draftspace before bringing to mainspace, since the group had not debut yet and there are bound to be more details and better citations that will be added eventually, because by the time the group debuts, it will be a different situation. This is not the same as Babymonster where it had been continually in the spotlight for years and have their pre-debut activities thoroughly covered in media, which was why Babymonster can stay in mainspace long before the debut. It does not necessarily mean that an article should be deleted completely rather than drafting it, because it is, needless to say, incomplete for publication and my point is to give it a chance rather than cutting it off entirely.
 * --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 08:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not a ref || 7. ^ Billboard South Korea Songs Chart:
 * Mill routine entertainment news for serial reality tv shows and contestants || 8. ^ Go, In-hye (October 10, 2023). "아일릿, 좌충우돌 첫 여행 리얼리티…'아일 라이크 잇'" [I'll-It, first travel reality show with ups and downs...'I'll Like It'] (in Korean). Newsis. Retrieved October 24, 2023 – via Naver.
 * }
 * Given the article history, oppose drafting but support SALTing the name so AfC needs to approve any future article. I think a review of the author's talk page User talk:ImAudrey shows they are basically edit warring the article into mainspace and the closer should take this into consideration.  // Timothy :: talk  01:15, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - I still stand by the opinion to draftify the article. I respect your opinion, but the reasons you gave about the cited sources seem more likely to support leaving the article in draftspace before bringing to mainspace, since the group had not debut yet and there are bound to be more details and better citations that will be added eventually, because by the time the group debuts, it will be a different situation. This is not the same as Babymonster where it had been continually in the spotlight for years and have their pre-debut activities thoroughly covered in media, which was why Babymonster can stay in mainspace long before the debut. It does not necessarily mean that an article should be deleted completely rather than drafting it, because it is, needless to say, incomplete for publication and my point is to give it a chance rather than cutting it off entirely.
 * --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 08:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - I still stand by the opinion to draftify the article. I respect your opinion, but the reasons you gave about the cited sources seem more likely to support leaving the article in draftspace before bringing to mainspace, since the group had not debut yet and there are bound to be more details and better citations that will be added eventually, because by the time the group debuts, it will be a different situation. This is not the same as Babymonster where it had been continually in the spotlight for years and have their pre-debut activities thoroughly covered in media, which was why Babymonster can stay in mainspace long before the debut. It does not necessarily mean that an article should be deleted completely rather than drafting it, because it is, needless to say, incomplete for publication and my point is to give it a chance rather than cutting it off entirely.
 * --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 08:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Draftify will likely be notable after debut due to it being a HYBE group no need to delete and remove editor attribution. Lightoil (talk) 04:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify is the preferable option actually. I feel that the group had not made their official debut and hence the content was incomplete and it was more accurate to say that this is not ready to be moved from draft space. Deleting it is quite premature because there is potential for the article to meet the criteria for publication once we had more time to pass —NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 05:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: per quality of extant sourcing presented above. बिनोद थारू (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.