Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep, nomination has been withdrawn. Davewild (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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I am withdrawing my nomination for deletion of this article. I stand by my reasoning of WP:V and WP:RS deficiencies but it seems pretty clear that my interpretation of those two policies, especially the latter, is quite different than that of the more active editors in this area of expertise. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC) This song from Mariah Carey's album E=MC² is claimed to be the next single. The article lacks verification through reliable sources that it will, in fact, be released as a single. Although it was performed at a concert in Japan, please notice previous claims of upcoming singles from that album based on such incomplete information:, and others. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please note that unlike "Love Story" (which had only a couple of interviews supporting it, right after the release of "Bye Bye") and "Migrate" (which was never announced as a single, officially nor unofficially), "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" has the "support" of various paparazzi pictures showing her filming the video. Now, that's not official, but I'm just making note of it.  Plus, this single was released in Japan already (hence the Japanese charts, although I also realise that they're not the official Oricon charts).  Due to the fact that it's not officially verifiable at this point, can't this be made into a redirect to the album page until otherwise proven or disproven? SKS2K6 (talk) 18:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have changed my vote to a keep as FMQB, a radio industry site, has confirmed a radio date of June 30, and the official Mariah Carey website has confirmed that this will be the new single. SKS2K6 (talk) 19:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The parallel to Migrate is the fact that this ecyclopedia was flooded by speculations of it being released as a single after it was performed on SNL, just like this sing was performed in Japan. If the article contained any verifiable and reliable sources at all to support the claim that this song is being released as a single, I would drop this whole thing. But there is absolutely nothing. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But it's already charting in Japan, which makes it somewhat notable regardless of whether it becomes the third single in North America/Europe or not. As there is only a little bit of info regarding the Japanese release, it can easily be merged into the album article until we get confirmation of release in the States.  That way, we don't delete the page history, which is not the thing to do apparently, according to AFD. SKS2K6 (talk) 18:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand the point you're trying to make about it charting in Japan, but having only a link to the Japanese Billboard charts, where do we get enough verifiable information to write an article larger than a stub? WP:MUSIC states A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article. I'm arguing that this is not the case for this song. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing for this article to be kept. I'm just saying that a merge and redirect is preferable over deletion. SKS2K6 (talk) 19:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

*Keep - Isn't This and That enough proof?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by J.s.a.s. (talk • contribs) 18:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A file sharing service and an unreliable site? No. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What we mean by reliable and verfiable sources is something official, like a statement from her record company confirming the release, or Billboard releasing a news blurb confirming it, etc.. Although Carey stating it is not totally unreliable, the fact of the matter is that these things can be changed at any time (like "Love Story" from this album, or "Say Somethin'" from her last). SKS2K6 (talk) 18:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

*I get your point, but u can see her shooting the video....if thats not enough proof, i dont know what is....J.s.a.s. (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:V and WP:RS will tell you what is enough proof. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete No reliable info about a release date and like with 'Migrate' Just because she performed it doesn't automatically make it a single. CRocka05 (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Confirmed as the third single from E=MC2 in the United States by All Access. It will go for Pop, Rhythmic, and Urban adds on July 1st.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldsoundz86 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, as it seems it indeed charted in Japan. Needs better sources than message boards, though. Anyway, we'll learn soon whether it's the official third single or not. – Alensha   talk  00:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep We have plenty of other articles on songs, and Mariah Carey is supposedly famous or something. So I'm not sure why this should be deleted, just because it might not be an actual single. M1ss1ontomars2k4 (talk) 05:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is most definately a single, that has been confirmed 100% because it was given an adds date which was listed by FMQB and Allaccess both of which are legitmate music industry sources i honestly don't see why the tag is still on the article this has been resolved 2007yo2 (talk)


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