Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'll Do You like a Truck


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Redirect to Geo Da Silva, as this is the practical effect of the move. The move makes the article compliant with policy, and appears to address all concerns raised during the discussion. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  15:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll Do You like a Truck
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Note to closing admin: Article was moved during AFD, and now resides at &mdash;Kww(talk) 01:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

contested prod. Does not meet notability guidelines. RadioFan (talk) 02:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm a bit conflicted on this one. First, it did make the Dutch Top 40, so it meets that part of WP:NSONGS. Over a million hits on Google, but so far as I can see, every single one is a chart, lyric site, or download link. Can it grow beyond a stub? I'm not sure. Someone's going to have to find an actual source for an article on this, and I can't. I tried narrowing the search down to Dutch sites, thinking that that would provide some actual discussion, but it didn't help.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: " Nom links to NSONGS, which says "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts ... are probably notable."  Song reached #5 on a national chart (& youtube copy of this song has 2.8 million views, so that tells me it was popular somewhere).  So nom is flawed as to notability.  The artist doesn't seem to have a page to merge into, so leave it here for now.  There also appear to be articles about the artist/song that can supplement the entry here.  --Milowent (talk) 05:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:NSONGS also requires the ability to grow beyond a stub. Looking at the English translation of your provided source, I still don't see enough to grow beyond a stub. Good find, though.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: This Afd nom doesn't show on the article page? --Milowent (talk) 23:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Repaired. Article creator warned not to remove AFD notices from articles.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  22:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 03:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete Charting singles aren't inherently notable. There are no non-trivial sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC) Keep now that the article is about the singer and not the song. Then trout creator for putting the cart before the horse. Ten Pound Hammer , his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:35, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I just added an article gushing about the guy and single in Romanian. It appears the song was also a hit in other non-English speaking countries. --Milowent (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Still lacks significant coverage in 3rd party sources.As Mr. Hammer points out, charting is no magic bullet. RadioFan (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. While it may have charted, it's unlikely to ever be developed beyond a stub. Rehevkor ✉  18:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep since Geo da Silva doesn't exist yet, despite clear notability: . Once that article is created a merge & redirect is probably warranted, but until that time we shouldn't be remnoving a hit single from Wikipedia. --ThaddeusB-public (talk) 19:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: This page (rough translation) claims the song is a hit in 30 countries. --ThaddeusB-public (talk) 19:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've looked that one over, and the problem is that its claims don't stand up to scrutiny. I can't find any charting outside of the Dutch position: if it was a "hit in 30 countries", I would find more charts, unless they are using an extremely loose definition of "hit". As I said earlier, I'm conflicted, because it meets the minimum charting requirement. I won't lose sleep if this is kept.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I moved the article to Geo Da Silva. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to move, much better place for long-term keeping.--Milowent (talk) 13:02, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.