Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'll Make It Bloom! Manly Usopp's Eight-Shaku Ball


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete all. Tito xd (?!?) 04:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll Make It Bloom! Manly Usopp's Eight-Shaku Ball
''Also nominating:
 * Legend Of The Rainbow Mist! Old Man Henzo of Ruluka Island
 * Where The Island's Treasure Lies! Zenny Pirates Full Charge!
 * How's That for Profit? Money Lender Zenny's Ambition!
 * Infamous Pirate Hunter! The Wandering Swordsman,Zoro
 * The Navigator's Mutiny! For A Unwavering Dream!
 * The First Patient! Anecdote Of The Rumble Ball
 * Inherited Recipe! Sanji, The Curry Expert
 * Zenny Lives On Goat Island And There's A Pirate Ship On His Mountain!

These articles were nominated two months ago (previous AFD). The result was no consensus. Everyone who suggested Keep said strong cleanup is needed. Other than adding/removing tags, only one of the articles has been touched. (I am NOT nominating that one here - that article has been cleaned up as to be borderline usable ... not spectacular, but usable.)

The opinions in the original AFD were 3 keeps, 3 merges, and 4 deletes, so that's not exactly a ringing endorsement. BigDT 01:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Conditional keep Can anyone provide per-episode references for these articles (in any language)? Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 02:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all, no one's really done anything to any of these articles since the last AfD, and Wikipedia really isn't the place for episode synopses. --Coredesat 02:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per nom Bwithh 02:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nomination. --Metropolitan90 03:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all, after all we have episode guides for the Simpsons, South Park, Buffy, and many others, so why not one for One Piece? Also, if no one else is willing to, I'll gladly clean-up the articles.--TBC TaLk?!? 04:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Simpsons, South Park, etc. are all highly popular shows watched by tens of millions of people every week. I don't know that there is a comparison. BigDT 04:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * One Piece is a very popular anime in Japan, and gaining popularity in America as well. Also, if I remember correctly, it was ranked the sixth most popular animated series in Japan, as according to TV Asashi (in fact, it seems that globally One Piece is more popular than shows such as Simpsons and South Park, due to the fact that they have a lot of American-related cultural humor that people of other nationalities have a hard time of understanding).--TBC TaLk?!?  04:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Are there any English-language reviews, news articles, etc, about the TV shows? As it stands now, everything is one person's view and, because these articles relate to the Japanese language version, which, according to One Piece is substantially different from the English language version, most en Wikipedians have no capability of verifying anything. List of One Piece episodes has a list of 271 Japanese episodes and 78 English episodes.  Do we really need 271 articles about episodes about a TV show that is in another language? BigDT 12:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all per TBC ikh (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete If this show isn't popular enough that any of its fans were willing to start cleaning the first time around, I find it unlikely the episodes listed will make much progress. GassyGuy 05:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all - Nobody did any cleanup after the last AFD and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. --WinHunter (talk) 13:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom; nothing more than context-free (and thus incomprehensible) episode summaries. Angus McLellan (Talk) 09:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep - True, it is a well-known and popular Anime. True, we have episode guides for other shows. However, these articles are very poorly written and desperately need to be brought up to standards. Aren't there Anime templates out there that could help with the context (like that which is found on the main One Piece article)? These articles also need to be wikified to interconnect with the main article (if it really comes down to it, I'll take care of that part, but someone needs to seriously copyedit first and I don't know the series well enough). אמר Steve Caruso (poll) 13:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, that was the condition under which they were kept last time and nothing has been done. BigDT 13:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm completely aware of that. Unless we can get someone to actually commit to cleaning them up and checking sources, the future of these articles seems rather brief. אמר Steve Caruso (poll) 14:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Someone seems to always volunteer and rarely follows through, as obvious by the relisting of all but one. -- zero faults   ' '' 13:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all asper nom -- Splette [[Image:Happyjoe.jpg]] Talk 14:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ugh, delete all. These are so bad that almost anyone could read them in their entirety and not gain a clue as to what they are about. TV episode synopses do not belong here. --  Aguerriero  ( talk ) 14:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all - I'm not a fan of having articles on a per episode basis, but these are very bad. After looking at a couple of them, I still had no idea what TV show this was.  Wickethewok 17:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment, I'm currently cleaning up the articles. So far I've added an introduction, external links, a template, and stub tags. If any one else wants to help, please feel free to do so.--TBC TaLk?!? 18:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all per TBC, although I suggest it might be better to create one article for each season/series to help comprehension per Wickenthewok. hateless 19:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete if no-one has bothered to make them presentable. &mdash;Xyra e l / 21:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC) 21:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Artw 00:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Fancruft.  KleenupKrew 21:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.