Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'm Alive (TV series)


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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 20:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm Alive (TV series)

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The source already in the article does not constitute significant coverage: A Colorado teen fights for his life after being bitten by a black widow, and a man is attacked by a wild elephant in China in the premiere of this new survival series. That's all it has to say.

After weeding out a crapton of TV Guide listings and false positives, I looked for articles that seemed to have something to say about the show. I feel the results of my WP:BEFORE were very low:


 * "Mom tells of bear attack". Human-interest story about a bear attack. The only content actually about the show amounts to Susan Cenkus will tell the story a 2006 bear attack in the Cherokee National Forest on the Animal Planet show "I'm Alive" today at 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. today.
 * "Snakebite victim recalls ordeal for TV". Human-interest story about a snakebite. This one is slightly more substantial; it contains about a paragraph or two about how "the producers" arranged things for the snakebite victim. Still, it gives literally zero detail about who was involved in the show or what their names are.
 * "Rattlesnake bite drama coming to Animal Planet". Human-interest story about the same snakebite. Again, mostly mentions the show in passing with vague terms like "the producers" and quote-farming from the show's website.
 * "FHU graduate shares his adventures in travel" (alternate copy). Human-interest story that dedicates less than a full sentence to the show: On Friday, he will be featured on the premiere of Animal Planet's reality show "I'm Alive." The program shows how people survive the wild. The rest of the article is about the victim of an elephant attack, including an interview with him and extensive mentions of his other efforts.
 * "Watch This". Only content about the show is Then a father and son on an elk-hunting trip endure a grizzly bear attack on "I Shouldn't Be Alive" at 9 p.m., both on Animal Planet.
 * "Watch This". Only content about the show is A crocodile rescuer is bitten by a cobra in his own bed. He probably didn't see that one coming. Then a kid mauled by a bear shootswhitewater rapids to get help, earning the title World's Toughest Teen.
 * "All creatures great, repulsive: Making sense of animal TV". Opinion piece about Animal Planet as a whole. Entire quotation is The Animal Planet shows "I'm Alive" and "I Shouldn't Be Alive" are full of true stories of people mauled by bears or shipwrecked in shark-filled seas.

There is no word on who the producers even are, or any other production details of the show. Does it have a host? A narrator? A director? An editor? Even IMDb is unclear on most of this. Nearly all the sources above are highly detailed on the events that were re-created for the show, but say next to nothing about the show itself, and the same seemed to be true for every subsequent one. The rest were just one-sentence blurbs in catch-all "what's on TV tonight" lists, such as the two cited here.

In short, I feel there is insufficient WP:SIGCOV of this show, and it should be either deleted or redirected to List of programs broadcast by Animal Planet. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC) Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "It’s hard to beat the drama of real-world, life-threatening encounters with wild animals, but I'm Alive drains much of the excitement from the stories by stretching them out too long. Hearing someone talk about being gored by an elephant in a remote part of China is fascinating; listening to his entire life story -- including his school years, travels, marriage, and a tragic loss -- is unnecessary filler that detracts significantly from his story."   The book notes: "Animal Planet's Human Prey and I'm Alive do the same. By casting nonhuman animals as inherently violent and dangerous, nature documentaries follow trends set by horror movies like Jaws, Anaconda, and Lake Placid. Such programs portray nonhumans as dangerous and unpredictable, without admitting that humans as a whole are far more dangerous to wild animals. Viewing these films uncritically increases our society’s desire to conquer such animals by killing, capturing, and harassing them. An episode of I'm Alive (2009), in which a man is attacked by a leopard, begins like a scene in a horror movie. An overhead, angular view reveals a man sitting in the dark. A fast-moving series of clips then shows a leaping leopard, a screaming woman, and a man lying on the ground, howling in pain. The camera then appears to fall, so the viewer cannot clearly see what is happening. Through the bouncing vision of the moving camera, which disorients viewers, the man is rushed to surgery, creating an intense feeling of danger and panic. Shortly thereafter, while the man's wife is describing her reaction to her husband's near death at the hands of a terrifying wild beast, the camera flashes to repeated images of the man being attacked by the wild leopard. This flick, like so many wildlife shows, relies on shock and terror to captivate viewers. By airing such clips, Animal Planet is unapologetically teaching viewers that other animals are dangerous, deadly—the enemies of humanity."   The article notes: "White’s story of survival will be retold next week on the Animal Planet series “I’m Alive” produced by Gurney Productions. The episode “Out of Reach” will air at 9 p.m. Wednesday, April 27, and at 8p.m. and 10 p.m. on Animal Planet high-definition channels. “I’m Alive” features the death-defying and moving stories of people who — regardless of the obstacles or consequences — were determined to survive an animal attack. White was contacted by the producers through Vanderbilt University."   The article notes: "This week, the mother of fourbasked in California's movie star glow while filming a segment for I'm Alive, an Animal Planet program that features people who survive animal attacks and shows how it changed them. ... Monday, she spent about five hours filming a re-enactment of what happened on June 10, 2008. ... When producers for I'm Alive tracked Diaz down, she was ecstatic. ... The show paid all expenses - travel, lodging and meals - for Diaz, husband Charles and daughter Madelyn. They arrived Sunday and walked along the boardwalk. On Monday, Diaz filmed the show. Charles and Madelyn were scheduled to be interviewed Tuesday."   The article notes: "The Missoula family recently experienced the lights, camera, wardrobe and makeup that goes along with recounting the near-death experience and remarkable rescue effort to producers at Animal Planet's "I'M ALIVE" TV series in Los Angeles. Producers with the cable and satellite channel contacted Ebinger several weeks ago and flew the father and son to California last week, put them up in a swanky hotel and interviewed the pair about the series of events. ... The two spent all of last Friday in California, telling their tale to Animal Planet producers. Interviewers asked detailed, often redundant, questions to acquire every kernel of information during two, four-hour interviews. ... "I'M ALIVE" is a relatively new show on Animal Planet, described on the cable channel's website as an ..."   The article notes: "Worthington native Branden Roth, who left his hometown behind more than two years ago to pursue a life-long dream to become an actor, will appear in an episode of "I'm Alive" tonight on Animal Planet. The show airs at 8 p.m., and is the first in what Animal Planet hopes will be a new series on its network. The show shares the real-life stories of people who encounter attacks by animals and survive. In the episode, Roth plays the older brother of a boy who was bitten by a Black Widow Spider."  <li> The article notes: "This week, producers of I'm Alive, a show aired on the Animal Planet channel, had phone interviews with the Golebiowski family. The gutsy surfer, who lives in Margaret River and works as a photographer, will be flown to the US for studio interviews and filming of a new series in the next few months. He said he didn't feel special -- but if people were interested in his story, he was happy to share it. ... The show has featured survival stories of victims of near-fatal encounters with alligators, bears, leopards, lions, sharks, scorpions, snakes and deadly species of fish." </li> <li> The article notes: "For Staff Sergeant Monique Munro-Harris, a string from a death stalker scorpion while deployed in Iraq necessitates a risky meical airlift over enemy territory." </li> <li>Less significant coverage:<ol> <li> The article notes: "Yolanda Diaz spent 10 days in the hospital after a snake attacked her near her home in June 2008. Last summer, she spent several days in California re-enacting it all for Animal Planet's I'm Alive." </li> <li> The article notes: "Now the world will have a chance to hear the chilling tale of how Mrs. Cenkus risked her life to save her children in the 2006 attack on the Animal Planet show "I'm Alive" tonight at 9 and 11 p.m." </li> <li> The article notes: "A couple weeks later she flew to Los Angeles to be on "Animal Planet," on a show called "I'm Alive." ... The trip to Los Angeles was the same. Hayes said the Animal Planet show, "I'm Alive," looks for people who've had dangerous encounters "and when you tell the stories, they back light you and dramatize it, and then they do a followup." But Animal Planet only gave her $500 plus the trip, ..." </li> <li> The article notes: "I'm Alive. Jaws comes gruesomely true in Hawaii for teenage Hoku in this new episode, as an enormous tiger shark severs his leg. A vacationing couple step in to try to keep him alive until help comes. In Canada, help isn't forthcoming for Gerald, who's the target of a 300-pound black bear. He climbs a tree to escape, but the animal drags him back down again in "Eaten Alive." </li> <li> The article notes: "Proof that not every critter has been properly puppy trained can be found on "I'm Alive" (9 p.m., Animal Planet), a weekly series dedicated to stories of folks who survived deadly animal attacks. Many surmounted horrific pain and moments of fear by focusing their thoughts on family and loved ones. A rattlesnake-bite victim tells himself he has a daughter to raise. Similar determination helped the survivor of an alligator attack swim to safety using his one remaining arm." </li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow I'm Alive to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - agree with nom. There are not proper or enough references. Lovewiki106 (talk) 07:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep changing to keep, per new citations found below by Cunard. Lovewiki106 (talk) 19:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per new citations listed by Cunard. Jacona (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified by Cunard in this discussion so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cunard's sources. Another time consuming effort to save an article that was nominated without a proper WP:BEFORE Donald D23   talk to me  22:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


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