Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'm Empire


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:46, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm Empire

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Unsigned local artist/local activists, who's released two apparently self-produced songs online. Some local stories, about doing local things, of interest to a local newspaper, but nothing approaching notability that I can see. Timothy Joseph Wood 20:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete article was flagged for speedy deletion (G11, A7) before for notability and promotional content, an up later removed the tags. Not well sourced, not notable per WP: BIO in my opinion. This article may have been deleted before. SamHolt6 (talk) 20:12, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete, I'm Empire is a notable feature that has modeled fashion global brands including Lynx body spray, is an LGBT activist and has been on tv many times as a dancer in reality TV, very notable to youngsters 86.187.164.10 (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete no claim of notability. Possible speedy candidate based on others' comments. Power~enwiki (talk) 21:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This page was created today by Official k; there's possibly a WP:COI here. Power~enwiki (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * do not delete watch south side story on BBC 3 im empire was on that show213.205.251.218 (talk) 21:38, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * dont delete shortlist and Lynx are nation wide brands and this person has been on UK tv, Official k (talk) 21:47, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, neither of those links seem to mention the subject at all, and generally subjects are required to have received sustained coverage in independent reliable sources in order to satisfy our notability standards. This subject may satisfy them one day, and maybe even one day soon, but they do not appear that they satisfy them currently. Timothy Joseph Wood  22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I would suggest you watch the first link again, and look out for his name, it is clearly mentioned at 16 seconds of the Lynx advert that received substantial national coverageOfficial k (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't watch it the first time, because vimeo links, like youtube links, are not generally considered ", and basically all of the coverage I found about the subject, was from the local newspaper, which doesn't really count toward notability. Timothy Joseph Wood  22:11, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * i don't know how you expect to look at old tv ads without using youtube or vemio, the information is to hand, maybe you should use it and you said that he was not mentioned in the link giving the impression you had looked at it, how would you know if he had been mentioned or not without lookingOfficial k (talk) 22:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't expect to look at old TV ads, because old TV ads do not meet our standards for reliable sources. Timothy Joseph Wood  22:18, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * not old, recent tv adsOfficial k (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The same principle applies. If there are independent sources that cover the subject's presence in this ad, then that may contribute to notability, but the add itself contributes basically nothing. But it turns out that when actually notable people appear in an ads they tend to get independent coverage. Timothy Joseph Wood  22:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:51, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Might i suggest that "MSM" newspapers are not relevant, and the subjects audience does not use normal media outlets so hence the lack of information, the audience base of the subject uses social media, this subject is verified on Facebook with the blue check mark on his page, the blue tick is ONLY given to notable public figures,it is not given on page likes, it is given on notability. if facebook is saying he is notable and have given him the blue tick to show it, who are you to argue with who the largest social media platform in the world says is notableOfficial k (talk) 22:30, 10 July 2017 (UTC) Official k (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails NARTIST. Not sure if any of those refs pass RS if they're actually about the subject. The sockpuppets also bring up red flags. South Nashua (talk) 22:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

as mentioned today's consumers of information to not use newspapers as they are not relevant, and the subjects audience does not use normal media outlets so hence the lack of information, the audience base of the subject uses social media, this subject is verified on Facebook with the blue check mark on his page, the blue tick is ONLY given to notable public figures, it is not given on page likes, it is given on notability. if facebook is saying he is notable and have given him the blue tick to show it, who are you to argue with who the largest social media platform in the world says is notable. this is a simple fact. I would trust the verification process of Facebook with 2billion users, maybe age or region may be a factor to why you dont understand this. the subject also its the host of two podcats with a global reachOfficial k (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This isn't Facebook. It's Wikipedia. Articles on Wikipedia Must meet Wikipedia's notability standards. This article clearly does not meet those standards. South Nashua (talk) 23:49, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nomination. No significant notability in my view. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 23:18, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

If you have been on Tv, write for a newspaper and is national gay and lesbian charity ambassador your notable, is213.205.251.21 (talk) 00:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Social media websites, such as Facebook and video references from YouTube and vimeo.com are generally not encouraged as good reliable sources, as per guidelines at WP:RSE and WP:YTREF. Many thousands of people have been on television and it does not necessarily qualify them as being notable. Guidelines at WP:GOODREFS state that: "Blogs, social media and fan sites are not usually acceptable." Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 00:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Is does not sayi it is NOT accepted, and the word usually implies that under some circumstances it is acceptable, not many people get featured in advertising i.e. The Lynx advert that featured him as a lead alongside British group hurts. This singer may not be globally notable but to LGBT people and dancers (south side story) and brands (Lynx, Facebook) he is notable, I accept that the original post was too glorying of the subject and I have made amendments 213.205.251.21 (talk) 10:12, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The appearance of random IPs on this page is getting suspicious.--SamHolt6 (talk) 13:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC, and WP:NARTIST - GretLomborg (talk) 13:50, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. And yes IP, "under some circumstances it is acceptable", but this is not one of those circumstances; they don't establish notability. Bennv3771 (talk) 20:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


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