Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'm Henry the Eighth, I am

I'm Henry the Eighth, I am was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to keep the article.


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place for song lyrics. 66.245.117.18 02:15, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * D I took out the lyrics, leaving a rather impressive article body. Chris 02:23, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to Herman's Hermits . Inky 02:51, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - Sub-substub. Worthy of a speedy, methinks. ClockworkTroll 02:52, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Article have been much improved. Change my vote to keep. ClockworkTroll 09:12, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Comments The correct title is "I'm Henery the Eighth, I am." Henery, six letters&mdash;not Henry, five. Since it was written/composed 1910 by Fred Murray and R. P. Weston, it is out of copyright. It is a fairly notable Music hall song, popular long before Herman's Hermits. U. S. residents, think of A Bicycle Built for Two (actually titled Daisy Bell I think) or Shine On Harvest Moon for something of comparable popularity. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 03:03, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) P. S. Now it's a stub. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 03:47, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * It would be out of copyright iff both authors died before 1929. Since WP doesn't hold a death date for either, I would reserve judgement until we have dates of death. Chris 04:41, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * UK, maybe, US, probably not. I think the only possible question is whether it was published. And whether 1910 is correct. If it was published in 1910 then it would be out of copyright no matter what in the United States. See UPenn: How Can I Tell Whether a Book Can Go Online?. As they explain there, if it was copyrighted before 1923 then the copyright has expired, and if it was published without copyright before 1923 then it has always been in the public domain. There are a few weird exceptions to this. If it's copyright in the UK but not in the US, which is possible, UPenn notes "As far as I'm aware, there are not yet hard-and-fast rules on the distribution of legal responsibility for downloading etexts from a country where they're public domain to a country where they're not. But I would at the least include a warning if you know that some of the texts you serve are copyrighted in some countries." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:50, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems to have improved since it's listing. Evercat 03:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lubberly now, in't? --LeeHunter 04:10, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep the new stub. The original listing was wholly appropriate.  Geogre 04:59, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. LOTS of songs and individual tracks have articles here. Wyllium 05:02, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)
 * KEEP. This song is about Henry VIII, the guy who divorced his wives and established the Church of England. This song is actually a nice learning companion to history students. I like it. Also KEEP the lyrics. It's in the public domain now. -- Toytoy 07:52, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
 * Uh... um... well... er... that is... you uh... are... how can I say this... joking? Right?
 * If you think it's about Henry VIII, you definitely need to read the lyrics. Keep. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:33, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)
 * Keep, wtf... keep. &mdash; siro  &chi;  o  09:14, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * KEEEEP Yeah what that person said ...Keep, wtf... keep. -Will
 * Keep. NO SAMS! (and redirect from or to the proper spelling.) --jpgordon{gab} 18:26, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Very strong Keep It's part of music hall history. We should have others like Burlington Bertie (I rise at 10:30) amd My old man (said follow the van, and don't dilly-dally on the way) as well. They're certainly notable - a part of British culture. -- Martin TB 19:47, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. Eeeaaasy keep. The (really rather good) Music Hall page could do with links to illustrative material. Icundell 18:01, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Comments
 * Keep, most notable. Charles Matthews 21:13, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep now! A"shii"baka &#9998; 22:38, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Original was dismal, but looks good now. Jayjg 12:12, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * If only all song articles were this good. Keep.Dr Zen 12:19, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. GRider 21:49, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Dmn[[United Kingdom| / &#1332;&#1396;&#1398; ]] 20:44, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep (as redirect, and article). James F. (talk) 22:57, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Samaritan 09:35, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Absolutely keep. I was totally unaware of the existence of this song beyond the Herman's Hermits version.  Fantastic cleanup. - Lucky 6.9 17:22, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, much better. Changing my vote to keep. Inky 04:41, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * WTF? --BesigedB 19:36, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP omg we don't delete things far less important than Henry the Eighth (no Willies either!)

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