Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'm Real (Kris Kross song)


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The result was   delete. Will assist with a merge upon request. Mark Arsten (talk) 05:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm Real (Kris Kross song)

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Song does not have enough coverage to warrant its own article. Although the song has charted at number 84 in the US and 49 on the US Hip Hop charts, thus satisfying "rank[ing] on national or significant music charts", per WP:NSONGS, it also states: "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article." I tried to find some additional information to add to the article, per WP:BEFORE, but came up with nothing. Statυs ( talk ) 21:30, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


 * How so? From WP:NSONGS: "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts...are probably notable." postdlf (talk) 21:48, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment&mdash;Please do explain how you mean that it fails the notability criterion. I can see plausible arguments both ways, but !voters shouldn't have to guess at nominator's rationale.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * We call that a WP:VAGUEWAVE. postdlf (talk) 23:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So we do. I'll have to put that on my list of things to remember.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I must have been a little out of it when nominating the article... wrote something in there now. Statυs ( talk ) 00:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks!&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * No need, that's what I was supposed to do in the first place. I also didn't include a reasoning in a move request I purposed around the same time... I don't know what was up with me. xD Haha. Statυs ( talk ) 00:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge. Even though the song charted, it does not have notability at all thus it should be deleted or merged. — Tomica   (talk)  10:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 03:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge Noting that the song charted at "number 84 in the US and 49 on the US Hip Hop charts" isn't saying much. Technically Billboard considers a "significant chart" to be in the Top 40, with the expanded list up the Top 200 providing coverage for MINOR/insubstantial songs that got limited airplay and/or sales.  Since the chart position was not particularly significant or notable overall, would not be called a "hit" in any fashion, and received no awards nor recognition, the song fails WP:NSONG for significance as a stand alone work. Яεñ99 (talk) 09:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete/Merge to Da Bomb. As said above.Bleubeatle (talk) 12:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.