Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I’ll Never Be The Same


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The result was redirect to Camila (album). J04n(talk page) 14:40, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

I’ll Never Be The Same

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Per WP:NSONG and WP:PROMO.

(From WP:NSONG): Notability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.

The sources I was able to find reference a song that has magically been released 2 days into the future...seems more like a promotional push than a subject that has notability outside of release promos and future album review articles. Delete and move info to Camila's bio. Comatmebro (talk) 00:24, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Redirect at worst. It's WP:TOOSOON now, but it's a plausible search term, and despite it not being my thing, this artist is rather popular at the moment, and will almost certainly chart. It'll really just come down to whether or not someone bothers to write an actual article or not. Sergecross73   msg me  03:01, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect the title to the singer. It's plausible search term but it is not notable on its own. Very likely to be searched since its not even releaed in full yet and the singer is popular–Ammarpad (talk) 05:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep on hold as information on the subject should release tomorrow. Then we'll see if it's worth deleting. ToThAc (talk) 14:21, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, that much of a leap of faith violate's WP:CRYSTAL, especially when, again, no one has bothered to actually write an article on this, so no information would be lost if a redirect to the album was created, and a single sentence was added to the album page. Sergecross73   msg me  17:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Per policy, Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. So how can we wait for scoop?. That's against policy. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:26, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Song may become notable in the future, but as of now is not.--Rusf10 (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Even now the song has some sources, just not enough for standalone page. That's why it should be redirected per WP:ATD-R and it may well have to be created in the long run. But I agree with your WP:TOOSOON. –Ammarpad (talk) 01:59, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Camila (album) for now, and if it gets a full release or charts in future it can be recreated as its own article again. The song is a promotional track for the album, so it makes sense to redirect to the album it comes from. Richard3120 (talk) 16:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


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