Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IDLC Securities Limited


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The result was redirect to IDLC Finance Limited. although the close was redirect you are welcome to merge source material from page history. (non-admin closure) buidhe 19:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

IDLC Securities Limited

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This & following articles doesn't meet GNG and fails WP:NCORP: significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. All 90% sources listed in these articles are primary. I tried with English & Bengali name but found nothing other than some press releases &/or promotional stuff.

--আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect subidiaries to IDLC Finance Limited, then list that one here again. I don't like bundle noms, too easy for one subarticle to torpedo the others, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, the reason i bundle together is that i notice someone trying to promote this company & its subsidiaries (possibly paid editing involved). As i said in my nomination they don't have significant coverage ... of the subject. I filled a Sockpuppet investigations & one active editor already blocked. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe</b> 05:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color: White">b</b><b style="color: White">uidh</b><b style="color: White">e</b> 06:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I am totally amazed the nomination claims all sources are primary when links such as from the financial express have link-rotted and been usurped. While such a link may have been primary I find it difficult to believe nominator has checked this out and the diligence of the nomination is thus at question.  There's likely enough for a merge but I'm not prepared to do it so I wont vote it.Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, i corrected my claim, not all but 90% sources are primary. But 1-2 source from financial express (other sources as well) does not demonstrate notability (fails WP:ORGCRITE), they are just some passing mention. for example:
 * IDLC Securities Limited have 17 sources, 10 are primary. Source no. 3, 4, 5 are about other company. Source no. 6 is a passing mention. Source no. 9 is a yellow page site, Source no. 15 & 16 are unrelated.
 * IDLC Investments Limited have 13 sources, 6 are primary. Source no. 1 is about their client, Source no. 2 & 3 doesn't work, Source no. 4, 6, 7 are passing mention.
 * IDLC Asset Management Limited have 15 sources, 5 are primary. Source no. 5 is about their client (same as avove), Source no. 7, 8 & 12 are listing site, Source no. 9 & 10 are same link & news about a signing deal, Source no. 11 is passing mention, Source no. 6, 13 & 15 are usual business reports.
 * None of IDLC subsidiaries doesn't demonstrate notability. They all are probably created by same person, see CU - only active accounts blocked already. Even though i nominate all for deletion, i would support all subsidiaries to merge with & redirect to parent company IDLC Finance Limited & I can help with merge. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: (all): One recovered url seems not to mention subject, another was not recoverable. Too many problems and insufficient care to avoid WP:LINKROT, take trouble to enable DB:V, avoid promotion etc etc.  WP:TNT job.  No objection to a properly recreated article by a declared COI editor via AfC.Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect subsidiaries (IDLC Investments Limited, IDLC Securities Limited, and IDLC Asset Management Limited) to parent company, IDLC Finance Limited. The subsidiary articles fail to demonstrate notability independent of the parent. The sources cited in them are almost exclusively press releases and other non-independent sources, and routine coverage or passing mentions of the sorts excluded by WP:CORPDEPTH from demonstrating notability. Keep parent company IDLC Finance Limited but stub it down as much as necessary (in the spirit of WP:TNT) to allay any concerns of promotionalism. The company is publicly traded on the Dhaka Stock Exchange, is one of the larger financial companies in the country, and most importantly has received significant coverage in several academic journals that I've added to further reading. Redirects and a stub may require watching to ensure that a paid editor doesn't turn them back into advertising, but they are better encouragement to good faith editors to improve on a notable topic than red links would be. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect subsidiaries, as per Worldbruce. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 06:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


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