Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IHeart Radio Fiesta Latina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus (NPASR) (Non-admin closure) Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 18:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

IHeartRadio Fiesta Latina

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Fails WP:GNG. Google only gives 94 unique hits on "iHeart Radio Fiesta Latina" and the 300k+ hits on "iHeartRadio Fiesta Latina" boils to to just 167 unique hits. Crystal boll with a smell of advertising. The Banner talk 10:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Numerous references (added recently to article) meeting WP:GNG with more possible, major concert featuring well-known acts, will be played in a major venue -- The Forum -- with music broadcast throughout the nation. Closing administrator, possible animus between nominator and article's creator, which might explain this dubious nomination based on irrelevant criteria ("167 unique hits"); further reason to consider banning nominator from making AfDs.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:52, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Aha, now you are taking over the harassing campaign? It has nothing to do with the original author, I don't discriminate so i don't care about an authors name or perceived status. I only judge the article.
 * Failing WP:GNG is a valid concern, finding just a few relevant hits of this never-held-before-concert too. The Banner talk 12:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep as creator. While the announcement of this event is less than a month old, this is getting covered by high quality sources Billboard, Music Times, L.A. Times, plus AXS a major ticket promoter and KFI, a major radio station owned by the promoter.  Its a major event by a major promoter at a major venue featuring major stars.  Even if this event were to turn into a complete bust, it would be irresponsible for wikipedia to fail to report on it. Trackinfo (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, while the subject has received multiple mentions in numerous non-primary or secondary reliable sources, none of them focus on the subject of this AfD as the primary topic of those sources. Furthermore, as an WP:EVENT, the subject of this AfD does not appear to yet meet WP:PERSISTENCE. Therefore, my opinion at this time is that it is too soon for this article to be created, and that this article should be incubated as a sandbox of the creator. If this article receives significant coverage many months after the event is over, than it could be said to meet persistence, and this article can then be recreated. As for the statement above "it would be irresponsible for wikipedia to fail to report on it.", I direct the user to WP:NOTNEWS.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 13:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 16:37, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Even though the event hasn't happened yet, it is basically a spin-off of the iHeartRadio Music Festival which happened a few months ago. Plus, there are already several references in the article that talk about the festival. Paul Badillo (talk) 06:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Biblio worm  03:53, 13 November 2014 (UTC)




 * Merge to iHeartRadio Music Festival, per WP:TOOSOON Hustlecat do it! 06:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge per Hustlecat. I smell an advertising rat, and this event has not yet made it on its own (hasn't even happened yet) in a way that warrants an independent article. KDS 4444  Talk  18:17, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

*Question: Based on the 7 day AfD clock, this debate is scheduled to close one day before the first concert takes place. The long term significance of this event is quite likely to be noted (or not noted) in the press coverage immediately following the event. Does it make sense to rush to judgement immediately before the event? Whichever way it goes, wouldn't it make sense to wait a few extra days for the press to report? Trackinfo (talk) 18:35, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * To be true: when the festival was clearly notable, there would have been no need for this question. The sources, mostly line up info, are not convincing about the notability of the festival. The Banner talk 19:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * At the moment 4; 3; 3 there is clearly no trend to decide. The sourcing of the significance of this specific event, exclusively through anticipatory press shows its importance on the coattails of the existing IHeart Radio Festival's success.  The decision about this festival as a stand alone will come clearer following the event.  I rescued the article on the contention that even in abysmal failure, a public attempt at a big event like this is notable.  The article is not lacking for sources of coverage, it is lacking for discussion of the long term viability or repeatability of the festival into the future.  When we can add that discussion of the results of the event, independent of its associated predecessor, that should change the Merge and Delete opinions. Trackinfo (talk) 18:54, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, oppose merge per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. See this articleWebCite in the Los Angeles Times and this articleWebCite in Billboard for two well respected reliable sources that have provided detailed coverage of the subject. The article cites other sources that also provide detailed coverage of the subject. There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow iHeartRadio Fiesta Latina to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete or incubate until after the event Looking at the references in the article, I see "will feature...", "lineup announced", "Fans who cannot attend the festival will be able to ..."  More useful would be sources that said, "featured...", "lineup was...", "Fans unable to attend were able to ..."  The event may or may not happen.  The article is WP:NOTNEWSPAPER of a future event written in future tense, with sentences written for the purpose of being reworked.  The article exposes the encyclopedia to the potential for being used as an advertising webhost.  Unscintillating (talk) 04:31, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Good radio I often listen... but I don't think good for encyclopedia standalone article... maybe Merge fopr now... but must be aloud later if it's enough sourced. 41.190.36.250 (talk) 10:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge and keep merged. The article in my opinion might have been speedy deleted as advertising as soon as it was published, except that it was written by a reliable editor, and I certainly am reluctant to do that now because of the extent of the prior discussion.  DGG ( talk ) 01:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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