Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IRip


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

IRip

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It looks like "iRip" was notable (from the late 90's to about 2014) in time to the popularity of ipods. In 2009 there was a legal kerfuffle with a text back from Steve Jobs. However, in my opinion, the ipod ripping software holds no notability today. The article has been tagged that it may not meet notability guidelines for products and services since September 2020. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 22:25, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability is not temporary WP:NTEMP. I find the deletion rationale confusing. With such logic, one may target the PET next. Pavlor (talk) 08:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Even the nom's rationale for deletion concedes that the software was notable, and as notability is not temporary I don't see a valid rationale for deletion being presented. This plus the book references certainly seem to show notability by way of WP:GNG. - Aoidh (talk) 10:04, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Really confusing reason for deletion. If once notable, than it is notable. Ipods are over, so is this tool. It's okay that there are not any news right now about this software. 多少 战场 龙 (talk) 12:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I was thinking in retrospect "that notability does not fade" So was the software notable in "2009?"   Reading the notability guidelines the presence or lack of support may or may not be an indicator of notability.  (That sounds obtuse but you can have a notable person without any sources that are readily apparent; the opposite could be true as well where support might be plentiful but the subject is not meaningful. )   Perhaps the notability in 2009 came from "use" or much more likely that Steve Jobs "said change the name" in a one sentence text.    In November 2009 The Little App Factory was forced by Apple to change the name of iPodRip to remove the trademark iPod. In a bid to gain leniency the developer sent an email to Steve Jobs and this email exchange was leaked garnering headlines due to Steve's succinct reply of "Change your apps name. Not that big of a deal." The software is now known as iRip.   To quote Steve Jobs in the article it is "not that big of a deal"  Is notability noise? I don't think the noise from a transitory headline (to generate readership (aka click-bait) is notable. Nevertheless, I hereby change my vote to Keep Flibbertigibbets (talk) 14:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want to withdraw the nomination (given that nobody has suggested that it should be deleted), you can follow the instructions listed here. - Aoidh (talk) 04:11, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.