Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ISOC (Islamic Society)


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The result was delete. W.marsh 21:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

ISOC (Islamic Society)

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We deleted Articles for deletion/LivISOC, a specific society, and the same editor has now created this unsourced article about student Islamic societies in general. There is, to my eye, nothing here which is not entirely generic. Replace Islamic and faith with, say, engineering and profession, and the thing reads exactly the same. Guy (Help!) 10:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: too vague, unencyclopedic. No evidence of notability - rernst 14:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * To call it unencyclopedic is going a bit far IMHO. A search will pull up many examples of IS's around the world, although I agree on the notability issue.  Zun aid  ©  ®  14:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice - Hmmm...tricky one. The concept of an Islamic Society (or equivalently a Muslim Students Association, the two titles are entirely interchangeable and refer to exactly the same thing) certainly has currency. You'd find MSA's/IS's on most campuses/schools where there are large Muslim minority populations. That said, there is not much more to be said about them than the fact that they exist and look after Muslim students' interests. As JzG mentions, this is no better than having a general article on "Engineering professional bodies". For the time being delete without prejudice. Perhaps it is possible to write an all-encompassing article about this topic. However, the current one isn't it, and without references does not provide the basis for such an article to be written.  Zun aid  ©  ®  14:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. This article was previously deleted by UkPaolo . Agent 86 17:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete contents without prejudice and redirect to Muslim Students Association Madmedea 17:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per Notability, a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject itself and each other such that there exists enough source material to write a verifiable, encyclopedic article about the topic. Since I was unable to find any Wikipedia qualifying published works about the topic and the article does not cite any, the topic does not meet Notability requirements.  Thus, although this appears to be an important subject, I believe that the article should be deleted per Wikipedia Notability requirements. Comment: If the topic becomes Wikipedia notable in the future, any recreation of the article should try to avoid confusion with the prominent Islamic Society of Orange County (ISOC). -- Jreferee 18:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete &mdash; not sufficiently notable a subject to merit inclusion, it's just a slightly expanded definition └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 18:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inadequate references. WMMartin 16:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Retain: - Given time the article will grow and improve - MSA article (american equivalent) went through the same process. Too many people delete without allowing enough time for article development. Despite the existence of ISOC's all over UK, not many people (especially non-muslims) are familiar with the term or what the generic ISOC may represent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seljuk Soldier (talk • contribs)
 * Delete: No reliable sources. Not sure if it really is a real group.--Sefringle 23:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


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