Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I AM THE BEST ARTIST Rene


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Nominator withdrawn (diff) . (non-admin closure) mabdul 14:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I AM THE BEST ARTIST Rene

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Contested prod. This article does not convey its notability, merely that the subject exists. Why was this graffiti important compared to all the other graffiti of that decade? The one possible claim to fame is an unreferenced cameo in a Michael J. Fox movie which seems accidental at best. It would require a source from the director saying that he chose that location intentionally, rather than by chance. Of the five sources, the first is a record of a court case, which does not by itself demonstrate notability. Anyone can go to court and have it recorded at leagle.com. The second source is an About.com article which doesn't even mention Rene. The 3rd and 5th are Flickr photos, which are not valid sources. Finally, the 4th is a self-published blog. Just for completion's sake, Google hits for "I am the best artist Rene" and "Rene I am the best artist" yield less than 100 hits each. In sum, the article does not demonstrate its notability and the five extant sources hardly qualify. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:10, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete -- per nom. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * '''Redirect to Rene Moncada based on new sourcing. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:N and BLP Sources, I originally prod'd the article for the nominations rationale.Newmanoconnor (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per the nom's well-reasoned rationale.  freshacconci  talk talk  00:26, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per well-written, detailed nom. Current sources don't cut it, and there isn't ample coverage out there to replace/rewrite with. Sergecross73   msg me   14:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait Please:i'll stand by my article, and ask for you fellows' patience. the murals in question and their notability is of an era pre-internet; i have added one visual, have done some copy editing to clarify facts, and expect to be able to supply the required references when i have access shortly. the film in which it appears is not merely random; it was framed in-full with obvious purpose, and within a montage of visuals all obviously used to evoke SoHo of that era, to which the lead character is a newcomer. IF the final decision will be to delete, let's at least TRANSFER a chunk of it to street art.Penwatchdog (talk) 12:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Reluctant Delete per nom. Penwatchdog, I hope you'll consider starting work on an article featuring Rene Moncada and his art, including the street art and murals.  I remember him and his irreverent art from my younger days.  But this article isn't ready for Wikipedia mainspace. DocTree (talk) 06:25, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin: The article was userfied to User:Penwatchdog/sandbox and now includes multiple references establishing notability, including 2 articles in the New York Times, an article in Newsday and several articles in various books and magazines. The sandboxed article should be WP:HISTMERGEd with the live one. 64.40.54.39 (talk) 10:28, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination, based on Penwatchdog's improvements. Please incorporate them into the main article. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect comment - Redirected to allow discussion on the recent improvements.
 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 17:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


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