Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Declare War (band)


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The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I Declare War (band)

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Not a single source, no notability and there's really no reason for the band to be included on Wikipedia. Yeah, I like their music. But I just don't see a reason for any of this. Not to mention, all this information that is stated on the article is already included on their profile for Encyclopaedia Metallum; a website dedicated to metal bands. This page really does nothing for the fans of the band that they can already read from that website. Second Skin (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete No discernible claim to notability. No sources. A Google turned up nothing that even comes close to ringing the BAND bell. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep — Article is really poorly written and completely unsourced, but it seems that they meet WP:BAND. Significant coverage in reliable sources includes, , , , and . Also has released two albums on a notable indie label, which is also home to numerous other notable bands (Artery Recordings). STATic message me!   17:00, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment After taking a look at the sources you found I don't think they rise to WP:BAND (1) which is the only possible claim to notability. All of the sources are industry orientated in small publications with very limited readership. I am dubious about their editing and fact checking as well as the reality that coverage is often influenced by money and advertising. Also some of the coverage seems to be fairly trivial or little more than a press releases If you are inclined to accept as RS sourced that are so closely tied to a niche market and ignore the complete lack of any other sources, I could see an argument for KEEP. But it still looks a little too thin for me. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:06, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You know releasing two albums on a notable indie label, which is also home to numerous other notable performers is also a point of BAND right? The five sources I cited certainly do meet WP:RS, see WP:IRS if you do not fully understand how to identify what is and is not a reliable source. Decibel, Revolver, Blabbermouth.net are all listed as reliable sources at WikiProject Albums/Sources, which is essentially a guide for what are reliable sources for music articles. As for the other two, both have been running since 1999, so are not no small blogs. See for Lambgoat consensus seemed to be that they are reliable, just not for reviews. Do not just jump to conclusions about sources since you are not familiar with the subject matter. None are press releases and "complete lack of any other sources"? First there were none, and now there are no others? I found those in just a limited number of Google results, I did not even scratch the surface. STATic  message me!   18:31, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
 * There are numerous bands on Artery Recordings which don't have Wikipedia articles. In Dying Arms, Upon This Dawning, Casino Madrid and Shoot the Girl First are just some of the examples. I have no problem with I Declare War's music, I think they're a pretty awesome band in my opinion. But how in the world do they constitute for a Wikipedia article? They document NOTHING for encyclopedic entry even IF notable sources for them existed. And reading your comment above, you seem to kind of be taking the fact that the band aren't really notable for Wikipedia entry kind of personally. Second Skin (talk) 08:50, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You misunderstand WP:BAND then as I can tell by your response. How is there nothing for an encyclopedia entry if they are a professional band that has released numerous albums and has been covered in reliable sources? And that is quite laughable, I have never once in my life even heard of this band before this discussion, and have never listened to a single song by them, so how could I be taking this personally? STATic message me!   23:42, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Then just as I suspected, their new album debuted at number 13 on the Top Heatseekers albums chart this week . STATic message me!   01:40, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * weak keep in addition to the news postings is a review @ Alternative Press . Another RS review or feature would be nice, but this will do. 78.18.102.158 (talk) 23:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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