Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Died for This!?


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The result was keep. ✗ plicit  13:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I Died for This!?

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Non-notable album. No substantive coverage in reliable sources, never charted, no certifications, no awards, never in the rotation of a national network. Its only claim seems to be that notable artist Eminem is featured on the recording, but notability isn't inherited. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NALBUMS. Yappy2bhere (talk) 08:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 15:09, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 15:09, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: The album has received some coverage since the day it was fresh from the oven. I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:, , , , , , and . That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:NALBUM.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 15:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:06, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you read your "reliable sources" before pasting the URLs here?
 * [5] is promo by the label ("'Southpawers' was created ... to support Shady Records’ artists" ),
 * [7] is merely a duplicate of the promo [5] via aggregator Yahoo News,
 * [1] is a plagiarization of the promo [5] (cf. "Clocking in at seventeen tracks" etc.) attached to a synopsis of another publication's article on the artist which says nothing about the album,
 * [2] is a capsule summary of someone else's article on the artist and a testimonial from the label's (co-)president about the artist sandwiched between a one-sentence release announcement and a tracklist.
 * The three secondary sources make incidental mention of the album itself, focusing instead on Eminem, the many featured artists, and the artist himself. (Grip, that is--he's on the album too.)
 * [6] says "Grip dropped his Shady Records debut album I Died For This!?, highlighted with" Eminem's song.
 * [4] similarly highlights Eminem ("debut on Eminem’s label", "Slim Shady himself took notice", "Eminem felt so strongly about GRIP’s future that he [contributed what is] undoubtedly the record’s biggest single.") and the boys in the chorus. The album itself is mentioned in passing ("GRIP has just released I Died for This!? ... [his] third studio album".
 * [3] further marginalizes the album itself by replacing the paragraph describing Eminem's participation with Eminem's lyrics. Note that [3] and [4] are nearly identical except for a different "Eminem was here" paragraph inserted between the first two paragraphs of the label's promo [5].
 * So, only three of these are secondary sources and two of those paraphrase the label's promo article. All three mention the album in passing and instead focus on Eminem, the performers Eminem recruited for the recording, and the Eminem's perspicuity in signing... well, whoever it was that Eminem just signed. Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:10, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * So, only three of these are secondary sources and two of those paraphrase the label's promo article. All three mention the album in passing and instead focus on Eminem, the performers Eminem recruited for the recording, and the Eminem's perspicuity in signing... well, whoever it was that Eminem just signed. Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:10, 9 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep; just added a new review from Pitchfork, plus a release day write-up from BPM. Two reviews isn't much but it's a good start. QuietHere (talk) 00:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:NALBUM with sources presented by Astig and QuietHere. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 12:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG with the sources provided by Astig and QuiteHere. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:19, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:NALBUM with presented sources.Jackattack1597 (talk) 12:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


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