Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Love Computer Art


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 16:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I Love Computer Art

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The only source I can find covering ILCA in any substantial detail is the article from Nintendo Life, and even the information there is ostensibly based upon what the company says about itself (e.g. a huge chunk of the text is a verbatim press release, another huge chunk is a tweet from the company, and every picture of their office used in the article was taken by the company). While they assisted with notable games such as Yakuza 0, etc., and some may see this as a surface-level contributor to notability, the scope of their assistance was clearly limited bordering on negligible. For example, taking a look at the Yakuza 0 credits (skip to 45:00 for the actual mention, but watching them all the way through paints a more telling picture), they're listed among dozens of companies as "Casting Cooperation" with two listed credits for "Producer"; they're effectively a footnote deep into the credits. The sparse sources I can find that even mention this subject's existence do so in relation to the upcoming Pokemon titles. As an example, a Polygon article: "Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are being developed by ILCA, Inc., the studio behind Pokémon Home. ICLA’s Yuichi Ueda and Game Freak’s Junichi Masuda are directing the games." Or The Verge: "Pokémon Home developer Ilca is working on both games alongside Game Freak." And that's it. That's the extent of the coverage in those sources. There's clearly not enough reliable, independent coverage to construct an article to Wikipedia's standards. The fact that the only two reliable sources I can find that even mention what the subject's name stands for (Nintendo Life and Eurogamer) can't even agree on what that is ("I Love Computer Art" and "I Love Computer Arts", respectively) is the icing on the cake and a pretty telling indicator of the subject's notability. There may be more coverage in Japanese sources that could bring the subject in line with notability guidelines, but that's outside of my wheelhouse, and what WP:BEFORE I did conduct in Japanese (using the term "ポケットモンスター ILCA" ["Pocket Monsters ILCA" in English]) showed little promise, for example this article from Engadget.

TL;DR: This is, as best I can tell, a cut-and-dry case of WP:TOOSOON. For those curious, this is the article for the company on the Japanese Wikipedia.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  05:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

After reading your argument for the deletion of my article, I may have to agree. While working on two Pokémon games, the studio isn't very notable outside of this and has received little media attention. I agree that this article may be deleted and if I wish to recreate the article in the future, I will wait until it has worked on more notable projects to a more important degree. VideoGameMovie 9:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VideoGameMovie (talk • contribs)
 * Sounds reasonable. I would 100% Support recreating the article (albeit removing most of the 'List of games developed by ILCA, as it seems misleading except for games like Home or BD/SP) once the company starts becoming notable. I know WP:TOOSOON is often used as a euphemism for "I mean anything can happen, right?", but I used it here with the belief that, by the time the remakes are out or shortly thereafter, ILCA will likely meet notability guidelines – at least enough so to create a stub. This isn't guaranteed, of course. For example, if our article on Game Freak is anything to go by, even coverage of such a famous, decades-old developer is surprisingly sparse. However, a fair amount of that coverage is from the 2010s, so I see a ray of hope for an ILCA article in the foreseeable future.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  04:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


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