Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I coulda been a contender


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The result was delete and redirect to On the Waterfront. Randykitty (talk) 11:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I coulda been a contender

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Article about a film quote -- yeah, that one -- which is basically as close as a quotation can get to WP:DICDEF. This was a stable redirect to On the Waterfront for five years, before getting spun off into a standalone article two days ago -- but what it's still lacking is an obvious reason why it actually needs a standalone article at all, because this adds no new context or sourcing that wasn't already in the film's article anyway. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory of quotations -- so for this quote to warrant its own separate article independently of the film, it would require quite a lot more substance and sourcing than has even been attempted here. This should be redirected back to On the Waterfront, though I'd prefer the delete-and-then-redirect approach so that there's no revertable version in the edit history for the dicdef stans to editwar over. Bearcat (talk) 05:10, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect per nom. Few movie quotes have become iconic enough to merit standalone articles. This isn't one of them, possibly because most people haven't seen On the Waterfront. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per all of the above. Shearonink (talk) 05:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Or more specifically, as Bearcat says, delete-and-then-redirect. It is one of the most well known lines in film history (#3 on AFI list). When I reviewed it a few days ago, I noticed that the original redirect had a notation that at least that editor thought it deserved an article at some point. A search turns up hundreds of references (which you would expect of an iconic movie line - but how in-depth they are I didn't look into), I checked about 20, and most are simple mentions, but a few like New York City English, do go a bit in depth about it. In the end I felt that the article could be expanded. Most of the articles in the top 20 of AFI's list are redirects: I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse, Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore., Here's looking at you, kid. (redirected after an AfD discussion), All right Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up, May the Force be with you, I love the smell of napalm in the morning, E.T. phone home, I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore, Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. You talkin' to me? and What we've got here is failure to communicate were both merged after discussion. Three, Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn, Go ahead, make my day, and Love means never having to say you're sorry actually have their own article (although one of those is virtually unsourced and probably be turned into a redirect). I had hoped the editor who created the article would expand it, but Bearcat's correct, in its current incarnation, simply not enough there.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect, per nomination and onel5969. &mdash;Javert2113 (Siarad.&#124;&#164;) 17:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I added sections. The one who creates pages (talk) 17:01, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


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