Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Davies (photographer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Monty 845  18:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Ian Davies (photographer)

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I'm pretty sure this was deleted before-a non notable person that also comes across as a advertisement in a way. Wgolf (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - No references. No apparent WP:CREATIVE notability. Perhaps WP:SELFPROMOTION.--Rpclod (talk) 16:36, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - No coverage in reliable sources to verify or sustain an article WP:NRV. Fails WP:GNG, WP:CREATIVE and WP:ANYBIO. J bh  Talk  16:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as appears to be promotional, Fails GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unreferenced BLPs are contrary to policy. An article that says Ian Davies is represented by the Fouzia Madani Agency in italics for emphasis is promotional. If anyone can furnish the independent coverage needed to establish notability, I will reconsider. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  17:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unreferenced BLP to establish subject as notable.  CookieMonster755   (talk)   19:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of notability and seems to be an ad. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 13:25, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * weak keep Lousy article, but he does have some long-standing notability back into the late 1980s, as the "house photographer" of the Madchester scene. I can't judge if this passes the bar for WP:N, but this is more than simply non-notable spam. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've deleted material that was pasted in from www.fouziamadani.com/artist/ian_davies/artist_profile/ (for which I didn't even have to google; Reddogsix alerted us to it within User talk:Lxndxn). I've also done some other minor work on the (non-) article. (Again without actually bothering to do any googling. Somebody more interested in celebs, fashion, etc than I am will have to do this.) If Davies was the "house photographer" of a "scene", then I expect that somebody (perhaps SPA Lxndxn?) will be able to add disinterested, credible sources for this. -- Hoary (talk) 23:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Another comment. As noted immediately above, I removed stuff copied from elsewhere and pasted in (because I had no clear reason to think that its presence didn't violate copyright). I also made other, minor changes that I think were improvements. (I'm not convinced that the article should survive, but also not convinced that it shouldn't: I thought I'd nudge the article in a salvagable direction.) Rather surprisingly (since it's already up for AfD), Comatmebro then prodded the article. Then Wgolf undid all my work (as well as Comatmebro's), with the edit summary "restoring afd". (The AfD template hadn't been removed, and Wgolf neither reinstated nor duplicated it.) So Wgolf has reintroduced material that must be presumed to violate copyright, re-redlinked the names of the biographee's (not-obviously-encyclopedic) kids, readded blather such as "leading cutting edge", etc. I find this mystifying. If the article is bad, it needn't be as bad as it now is: I slightly improved it; now it is degraded. -- Hoary (talk) 10:01, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry about removing your work-the AFD was removed so I was trying to revert and went to far. Wgolf (talk) 18:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Wgolf. -- Hoary (talk) 01:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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