Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ice Queen (JAG)


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The result was   keep. Valley2 city ‽ 17:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Ice Queen (JAG)

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Unreferenced article about an episode of a television series. Article consists entirely of plot summary. McWomble (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are plenty reliable sources that cover at least the basics of the episode., etc.   I can't really find any reviews online, but I found several from reliable sources via LexisNexis.  Robert Fidgeon called it a "don't miss".  Brian Courtis of the Herald Sun (don't know why I find so many Australians), wrote a short review, but called it "good saturday night escapism." (if you'd like to see more of the text of these and don't have LexisNexis access, contact me via email).  Suffice it to say that there aren't a million sources on this, but enough exist to write a neutral, verifiable article. Cool3 (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment- For what its worth, I believe it was this episode that introduced characters that would be spun off to NCIS, which might provide some notability there, but since I can't look anything up right now, I can't say that for certain. Umbralcorax (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it did introduce the NCIS characters, which does seem to make more important than just your average episode. Cool3 (talk) 19:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact that it was the NCIS backdoor pilot brings it above notability easily, and the sources are there.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Projectify to Wikipedia:WikiProject Television or userfy to any interested party. Since the episode was instrumental in the creation of NCIS, it is more notable than your regular episode, but that is largely irrelevant. If it is possible to have well-referenced articles about an entire series, it is bad form to have holes in the coverage. (just as much as bad sourcing is bad form) - Mgm|(talk) 11:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable for being the pilot for NCIS and per Cool3 it has reviews in reliable sources. We don't need to projectify or userfy articles that have potential, we need to keep them in the mainspace so that they will be noticed by interested editors and improved. But there is no deadline for that improvement. DHowell (talk) 02:59, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


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