Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ichirō Tanaka


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Ichirō Tanaka

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Boilerplate rationale adapted from my previous AfDs of similar photographer articles (such as Keizaburō Saeki), which itself was largely borrowed from at Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion, but have improved and de-orphaned quite a few more when sources have been available. To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."

In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name. I have also checked the Japanese name. None of the English transliterations turned up anything of use. The Japanese characters brought up nothing of substance anywhere. Ja.wiki has a disambiguation page for the name, ja:田中一郎, which notes that it's a very common name, so that makes searching all the more difficult.

He does not appear in the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing in any other article, except for the above-noted disambiguation page.

In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 10:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:52, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:52, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I have translated the disambig ja:田中一郎 and none of them were the photographer. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 22:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I think he's notable. Google the combination of 田中一郎 (his name) and 写真家 (shashinka, i.e. "photographer"), and a small amount pops up. The problem is that Japanese newspapers put little on the free-access web (they hope that you'll subscribe to a database of their articles); what you do see is from sellers of used books, and from blogs and the like. Here's an example of the former: about Tanaka's book 昨日今日 (Kinō kyō, or possibly Sakujitsu kyō; either meaning "Yesterday [and] today"). And here's an example of the latter: about a very little museum dedicated to Tanaka's photography. Tanaka was born in Takayama and continued to live there for most but not all of his life. His photobooks were mostly self-published, which sounds rather damning till you remember that this is normal for even eminent Japanese photographers (indeed, the reputation of Kiyoshi Suzuki [terrible non-article!] rests on his self-published books). André Kertész spent some time in Takayama and Tanaka produced a book somehow related to this -- quite how related, I don't know offhand -- and Tanaka's name might appear in a good study of Kertész. So all in all Tanaka merits an article, I'd say. But he's an un-trendy photographer from Japan, so I doubt that he'll ever get one. Delete without prejudicing the fate of any future article about him. &para; PMC, you say here that it might be a good idea if you pinged me about these nominations for deletion; indeed it would. You've been pinging Polbot, but Quadell has commented (rather amusingly) on the futility of this. (See the top of User talk:Polbot.) "If you like," he says, "you can leave me a message at User talk:Quadell"; but Quadell's list of contributions is such that I think any message would go unread if you're lucky or reinforce his unenthusiasm for returning to Wikipedia editing if you're not. -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: per . These articles which just assert that the photographer in question is notable but don't evidence the claim don't actually make a credible claim of significance because they don't say why.  (I'm using CCS not in the strict CSD definition but in a broader sense.)  StraussInTheHouse (talk) 19:00, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not enough sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


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