Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Idin Samimi Mofakham (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I opted to relist to get more opinions, but with one of the delete votes changing their opinion there seems to be a WP:HEY-type swing of opinions following improvement. No prejudice against renomination if there are still other concerns. Primefac (talk) 01:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Idin Samimi Mofakham
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Procedural re-nomination of this page, which was originally nominated in January 2020 but speedy deleted (via G12) and thus the discussion was closed early. I will copy the original statements below. Primefac (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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Note: The following is copied from the previous AfD discussion. ☆  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) ☆ 23:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete — No criterion from WP:COMPOSER is satisfied & generally the subject lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence fails to satisfy WP:GNG as well. The keep !vote rationale from the article creator fails to demonstrate how the article’s subject is notable. Celestina007 (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If necessary I can add links to the sources in Farsi. --Archa2 (talk) 19:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC) 21:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete (unless reliable Farsi sources can be found) — I understand the passion for promoting the gentleman's accomplishments, but when it comes to coverage in English, I must agree with Celestina above. The gentleman has been introduced at the websites for the events that he attended, the orchestras with which he played, the awards shows in which he was nominated, etc. but this does not add up to enough independent and reliable media coverage. I concede that there may be a problem with Farsi sources, because the article does not provide the native version of his name and therefore the rest of us cannot search for it. If anyone can find reliable and significant sources in that language, I could be persuaded to change my vote. ☆  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) ☆ 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Changed vote: Keep - due to improved sources in the musician's native language, found as the discussion progressed. ☆  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) ☆ 23:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I have added significant improvements to the entry, including the vast amount of Farsi reliable sources, magazine entries and official documents I could retrieve about the subject. I have also introduced, by the suggestion of User:Doomsdayer520, the native version of this composer's name, which enables you to follow an extra search. I am hoping that by these improvements, you can consider keeping the material on Wikipedia. --Archa2 (talk) 16:37, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This is an exceptionally difficult field for subjects to meet our notability requirements. Unlike much of contemporary culture there isn’t a great industry of commentary, critical review and discussion about it. This subject’s work is the topic of a piece of research published in an academic journal (ref 2). There is critical commentary of his work in The Brooklyn Rail (ref 7). He is invited internationally to give masterclasses (ref 15) and from all the programmes listed here it is clear that orchestras in many countries select his work to perform. That’s about as notable as a contemporary composer gets. Mccapra (talk) 07:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the significant coverage in reliable sources identified in the above post which shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 22:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.