Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Idrees Bakhtiar


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The result was keep, but expand plz. Sr13 08:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Idrees Bakhtiar

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Non notable journalist. No assertion or justification of notability. Ragib 01:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - as nominator, per above. --Ragib 01:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Journalist appears notable enough. Stub needs to be expanded. Arevich 01:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep He's notable in Pakistan, and his house was raided as part of a criminal investigation that has been protested by journalists in Pakistan. Needs expansion.    Acroterion  (talk)  03:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with this, once you add info on his notability. As of now, the two short sentences here don't express this at all. So, please add the info which you referred to. --Ragib 05:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand, 14 GNews hits (39, minus his bylines and stuff where his employer quotes him). cab 03:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Google test has several problems, and an argument should not rest on the basis of a simple count of Google hits. Morgan Wick 08:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Google News does not have the same problem as simple Google, and my search was not a "simple count of hits" as the whole point of the narrowing terms is to exclude trivial coverage which does not aid in meeting WP:N. cab 09:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also it's generally appreciated by most non-newbies (and some newbies) if you do not leave canned messages with little warning images on them. cab 09:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Shh... you'll ruin the secret! Morgan Wick 16:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Per cab, reliable sources are actually discussing him. The number of Ghits is somewhat irrelevant for a notable individual in a country without a strong Web presence. -- Charlene 03:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, Notable journalist in their home country. Callelinea 23:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Under WP:BIO the journalist must be either an important figure in their field, innovative in their field, a well-known body of work, or receive critical attention. However, the article does not establish any of these points and there are no references to assert them.  Tdmg 02:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Article needs expanding, but it seems he is a notable example of a jounalist who has been politically oppressed for publishing anti-government opionions. See  and . JulesH 13:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 12:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.