Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/If They Only Knew (Trip Lee album)


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The result was redirect to Trip Lee discography. There's a couple of assertions that this is notable, but neither supplies sources and/or policy-based arguments to back up the assertion. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:52, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

If They Only Knew (Trip Lee album)

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Fails notability criteria, both WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM. https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/IfTheyOnlyKnew.asp and https://www.allmusic.com/album/if-they-only-knew-mw0001105981 are database entries without a review. The next best references were from sales locations (Amazon, ChristianBook, etc.). Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This article was deleted per PROD. I requested un-deletion to see if it is possible to salvage the article. There is at least one review of the album that I managed to find. Will include it shortly.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 23:52, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I would not object to userfying it under your space until sufficient sources can be found, but it shouldn't be kept in main space. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I've added some sources. Probably not sufficient for notability, but at least enough to warrant discussion as to the fate of this article.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 00:17, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * WP looks OK. Not sure about the others. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:32, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The Cross Rhythms review isn't sufficient? I felt that was the strongest, since it discusses the album in depth.--3family6 (Talk to me &#124; See what I have done ) 19:49, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Cross Rhythms is included on the list of reliable Christian music sources? Atlantic306 (talk) 16:16, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Aye. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music/Sources. But is that all it has going for it? We need sources. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:47, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep, article has four refs, including the Washington times, demonstrating notability.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:11, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you read the article? It is a one-sentence mention of the album, as is vibe.com, while the third is a PRIMARY source which only leave the review from Cross Rhythms as the sole RS that discusses it at length. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 03:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep As per seeing above ref. Article no doubt is not to be considered for deletion. Zinzhanglee (talk) 09:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Trip Lee discography. Notability requires there to be significant coverage in multiple independent reliables ources.  What is presented in the references are passing mentins and falls well short of significant. -- Whpq (talk) 14:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Trip Lee or Trip Lee discography per WP:NALBUM, "articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged into the artist's article or discography" - as there is nothing here to merge, a redirect seems indicated - the article is highly promotional in tone ("promising newcomer", etc.); WP:NOTPROMOTION - the Cross Rhythms review is only one paragraph, not an in-depth review - the album has not been the subject of coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources - Epinoia (talk) 16:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Trip Lee or Trip Lee discography. I agree with Whpq and Epinoia as there just does not appear to be enough significant coverage. Aoba47 (talk) 19:02, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


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